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Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:24 am
by jrmy
Whoa - great ideas, all!

I'm totally going to have to check out that Behringer multi-FX. That is CRAZY CHEAP!! And since this is for feedback / noise purposes, messed up modulation is totally fine. Possibly better, even. And I like the sounds of the Arion octave 1 - I've already got the stereo chorus, and it's a surprise champ!

:joy:

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:42 am
by Bellyheart
The Behringer is a good idea. I've never heard of it.

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:05 pm
by lawrence scaduto
the raytownian wrote:
jrmy wrote:Has anyone tried tremolo in a FB loop? It strikes me as the sort of thing that could be unexpectedly cool...


Yes. it's fun (especially right before an auto-filter/wah). But, as far as cheap stuff goes, the Tuna Melt SUCKS.... the chop is WAY too fucking soft for my liking, and it really can't handle hot signals for shit... the later being the most damning aspect for me... I want it to sound like a mute switch when a hit the tremolo, YOU FUCKS!

I had problems getting a hard chop from it just playing a guitar...



yes yes yes!

i have a marshall vibratrem. same issue. does little to ZERO chop. such a bummer. i haven't played with too many trem pedals but i do not recall anyone doing the full chop like i would like. anyone else care to chime in on this? if this isn't out there it might be something i need to whip up.

i love the boss metal zone with the utter stutter. you can pitch and tune it some what well with the eq knobs which leads me to my next point

feedback loops absolutely LOVE eq pedals. you can tune them very easily and find a huge assortment of new sounds. any cheap eq should be fine. this is a must!

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:05 am
by eti
jrmy wrote:Whoa - great ideas, all!

I'm totally going to have to check out that Behringer multi-FX. That is CRAZY CHEAP!! And since this is for feedback / noise purposes, messed up modulation is totally fine. Possibly better, even. And I like the sounds of the Arion octave 1 - I've already got the stereo chorus, and it's a surprise champ!

:joy:


Since it's sort of a wack dual channel pedal, I plugged one into the other and the pitch shifter gave a slight regenerating feedback. Tuned it to 5ths and got this.
fx.mp3
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:omg:

WARNING it gets loud. I overloaded my computer a bit or two.

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:59 am
by Astricii
One thing I've noticed is that the output impedance of any pedals you have before the loop can change the tone/volume of what's going on inside the loop. I keep my fuzzes outside and all of my modulation/delays inside my CCB. then run the out into my amp. I usually kick on a fuzz and then start going crazy with the feedback looper and knob twidlin at the end of a set. it keeps everything in a more audible oriented range. I want to get an utter stutter now with the exp control. :love:

Ibanez AW7 CF7 any of the tone locks seem to work really well.

My DD-6 is alright but I'd rather try another delay of some sort. haven't experimented much. I think I need some kind of buffered pedal before a fuzz to make it do anything My SSFG and OK don't do anything on their own.

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:53 pm
by oldangelmidnight
Danelectro Chicken Salad vibrato is fun.
EHX Holy Stain is super duper cool. Expression controlled pitch shifting ftw. Also, the slightly boosted, reverbed tremolo makes cool noisy pulses.

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:30 pm
by Inertia
eti wrote:
jrmy wrote:Since it's sort of a wack dual channel pedal, I plugged one into the other and the pitch shifter gave a slight regenerating feedback. Tuned it to 5ths and got this.
fx.mp3
:omg:
WARNING it gets loud. I overloaded my computer a bit or two.

I like it! :thumb:

Might pick one up this weekend :excellent:

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:04 pm
by jrmy
eti wrote:
jrmy wrote:Whoa - great ideas, all!

I'm totally going to have to check out that Behringer multi-FX. That is CRAZY CHEAP!! And since this is for feedback / noise purposes, messed up modulation is totally fine. Possibly better, even. And I like the sounds of the Arion octave 1 - I've already got the stereo chorus, and it's a surprise champ!

:joy:


Since it's sort of a wack dual channel pedal, I plugged one into the other and the pitch shifter gave a slight regenerating feedback. Tuned it to 5ths and got this.
fx.mp3
:omg:

WARNING it gets loud. I overloaded my computer a bit or two.


That is friggin' awesome! I'm totally going to get me one of those!

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:42 pm
by eti
:yay: thanks d00ds.

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:14 am
by eti
Thought I'd continue with teh hijacking a bit.

This clip starts with a prototype of a yet-to-be-released Red Panda effect :joy: :joy: :joy: then at 30 sec I add the FX600 set to octave down and looped as described above :omg: :omg: :omg: then at 45 I kick in a wah inside the loop :wha?: :wha?: :wha?:

Hope you like it :bob:

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:51 am
by the raytownian
eti wrote:Thought I'd continue with teh hijacking a bit.

This clip starts with a prototype of a yet-to-be-released Red Panda effect :joy: :joy: :joy: then at 30 sec I add the FX600 set to octave down and looped as described above :omg: :omg: :omg: then at 45 I kick in a wah inside the loop :wha?: :wha?: :wha?:

Hope you like it :bob:


Wow, that's nuts... It has a sound, strangely, like uber-metallic FM synthesis underneath the "fuzzy octave" sound.

I DOTH LIKETH... A LOT!

EDIT: These samples provide a pretty good example of the FM-like qualities I'm hearing: http://www.freesound.org/packsViewSingle.php?id=873

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:08 am
by eti
the raytownian wrote:Wow, that's nuts... It has a sound, strangely, like uber-metallic FM synthesis underneath the "fuzzy octave" sound.

I DOTH LIKETH... A LOT!


Glad ye doth liketh!

EDIT: These samples provide a pretty good example of the FM-like qualities I'm hearing: http://www.freesound.org/packsViewSingle.php?id=873


Kewl sounds!

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:56 am
by the raytownian
eti wrote:Kewl sounds!


I liked them too, haha... Makes me wish I had one of these:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/ds8.php
or these:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php
or these:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/tg33.php

or possibly all three...

I hear the FM-ish characteristics on the decay of the notes in particular, in case anyone is listening and doesn't hear what the hell I'm talking about!

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:00 pm
by eti
the raytownian wrote:
eti wrote:Kewl sounds!


I liked them too, haha... Makes me wish I had one of these:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/ds8.php
or these:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php
or these:
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/tg33.php

or possibly all three...

Shouldn't be too hard to find a used DX7 these days.
I hear the FM-ish characteristics on the decay of the notes in particular, in case anyone is listening and doesn't hear what the hell I'm talking about!

Dunno if they are listening. Only 4 other people downloaded my last clip XD

Re: Cheap pedulz for feedback loopage?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:07 pm
by jrmy
eti wrote:Dunno if they are listening. Only 4 other people downloaded my last clip XD


D'OH! I want to download that... just keep thinking of it at work, not at home... :facepalm: