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this year's NAMM haz been good? y/n??? how does it compare to previous NAMMs. i've really only been a passive NAMM observer for a couple of yrs but i've never been excited by anything until this year.

NewarkWilder wrote:and in other news, Nazis @ NAMM!

There's a lot of that going around viewtopic.php?f=42&t=7912

NewarkWilder wrote:haha. & yeah i know these symbols have meaning beyond the bullshit the nazis tainted them with... still--its a volatile symbol, and one they probably will take some heat for since its featured so prominently on the pedal. My guess is it won't amount to much but you never know. I'm just amazed nobody ran a simple google/wiki search and said "uhh, guys, we might want to take this into consideration here......."

yeh, not the smartest business move unless it was intentionally done to create some kind of a buzz, even if it's a negative buzz. If nothing else it'll be "hey, remember that pedal a few years back with the illuminated nazi symbol? um, no"....

Blurillaz wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_z8wjvHMKo[/youtube]

Serious question. How are these units/modules used in a real world setting or are they just for abstract sound experimentation? I'm into trippy noise stuff and have a few simple noise generators that are a kick to run thru other fx and create weird atmospheric drone soundscapes that my gf shakes her head at, but I don't understand what these ultra precise rack units are for. Dance? Trance? They look cool as shit with all the knobs, sockets and wires but do they do more than create user specified timed bleeps? I mean, this guy gives a decent demo but I'm still not sure what you'd do with it, or the other ones that are 10x bigger.

sjtele wrote:

Blurillaz wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_z8wjvHMKo[/youtube]

Serious question. How are these units/modules used in a real world setting or are they just for abstract sound experimentation? I'm into trippy noise stuff and have a few simple noise generators that are a kick to run thru other fx and create weird atmospheric drone soundscapes that my gf shakes her head at, but I don't understand what these ultra precise rack units are for. Dance? Trance? They look cool as shit with all the knobs, sockets and wires but do they do more than create user specified timed bleeps? I mean, this guy gives a decent demo but I'm still not sure what you'd do with it, or the other ones that are 10x bigger.

Well the bleeps are just the specific output they're using in that clip. That module is just a clock divider, so you could use those outputs to drive a synth, or a drum machine, or a sampler, or whatever. This particular module would actually have been very useful to me a few weeks ago when we were working on a trance track that gradually shifts time signatures over the course of the song. Unfortunately, we ended up just spending like 5 hours tediously shifting sequences in Cubase to do it.

The OP-1 seemed a bit gimmicky to me. I'd prefer a sampler over that thing, like the MPC-500.

one more quick fail about that tube-like echo...

looks like when the led is on, the effect is off.

Nychthemeron wrote:The OP-1 seemed a bit gimmicky to me. I'd prefer a sampler over that thing, like the MPC-500.

+1. def gimmicky. still looks intriguing tho. could be pretty cool it actually took me like 20 minutes on the website to figure out exactly what it does.

700 would be waayyy expensive too, u could get a load of badass gear for that much

iblamesummers wrote:

NewarkWilder wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Three_sevens.svg

Description: Neo-Nazi "three-sevens" symbol (triskelion), prominently employed by the South African AWB group.

yeah... and its CALLED the Triskelion, too

The triskele is an ancient symbol used widely in pre-Christian Europe. One version of the triskele, with three human legs, has been used in the coat of arms for the Isle of Man and the Kingdom of Naples. An abstracted triskele appears on the seal of the United States Department of Transportation. The version of the triskele that looks like three linked sevens has a high degree of association with white supremacy, but other versions do not and are most often used in a non-racist context. They may frequently be seen in Celtic jewelry, artwork, and in other similar contexts.

like the Swastika, really kind of depends. it could also be a numerology thing as well.

The part I've put in bold seals the deal for me, they picked the three 7s version on purpose for controversy/free advertising imo. Funny I'd never heard of the company before today and I still don't know what the pedal is but I certainly know the company name.

The Tech21 Orange emulator is the big one for me, can't wait to here clips on bass and guitar.

has anyone actually SEEN anything from the Namm pics and info that really seems like a winner? i'm seeing a lot of knobs, dials, meters etc. but nothing that's really original.... yet......

anyone???

here's what I want to try from new stuff at NAMM so far:

sjtele wrote:Serious question. How are these units/modules used in a real world setting or are they just for abstract sound experimentation? I'm into trippy noise stuff and have a few simple noise generators that are a kick to run thru other fx and create weird atmospheric drone soundscapes that my gf shakes her head at, but I don't understand what these ultra precise rack units are for. Dance? Trance? They look cool as shit with all the knobs, sockets and wires but do they do more than create user specified timed bleeps? I mean, this guy gives a decent demo but I'm still not sure what you'd do with it, or the other ones that are 10x bigger.

i know modular synths & modules have been pretty popular in noise for sometime now, which would explain 4ms' units/modules. i think they made a modular Noise Swash last year.

i actually have not seen modular synths & stuff used live but there a west coast band called Rahdunes & i've heard they actually SLAY w/ their equipment. that is just one example i know of personally. there are many moar...

contemporary real world/non abstract sound settings? have you heard the neu portishead single ??? or Third ? there really are LOTS of examples of modular synths & units being used today. like right now. & in the past (post-punk, industrial, rock, funk, disco et cetera...) i don't have any real experience w/ modular stuff so i really don't think i could offer any real analysis pro or con.

iblamesummers wrote:

sjtele wrote:Serious question. How are these units/modules used in a real world setting or are they just for abstract sound experimentation? I'm into trippy noise stuff and have a few simple noise generators that are a kick to run thru other fx and create weird atmospheric drone soundscapes that my gf shakes her head at, but I don't understand what these ultra precise rack units are for. Dance? Trance? They look cool as shit with all the knobs, sockets and wires but do they do more than create user specified timed bleeps? I mean, this guy gives a decent demo but I'm still not sure what you'd do with it, or the other ones that are 10x bigger.

i know modular synths & modules have been pretty popular in noise for sometime now, which would explain 4ms' units/modules. i think they made a modular Noise Swash last year.

i actually have not seen modular synths & stuff used live but there a west coast band called Rahdunes & i've heard they actually SLAY w/ their equipment. that is just one example i know of personally. there are many moar...

contemporary real world/non abstract sound settings? have you heard the neu portishead single ??? or Third ? there really are LOTS of examples of modular synths & units being used today. like right now. & in the past (post-punk, industrial, rock, funk, disco et cetera...) i don't have any real experience w/ modular stuff so i really don't think i could offer any real analysis pro or con.

Trent Reznor likes his modular modules and he's a cool dude.
They do look sweet but you see people on YouTube just making some really lame noises. I mean they spend a lot of money and ... the stuff just sounds like crap. I guess in the right hands they can be amazing.

MannequinRaces wrote:


Trent Reznor likes his modular modules and he's a cool dude.
They do look sweet but you see people on YouTube just making some really lame noises. I mean they spend a lot of money and ... the stuff just sounds like crap. I guess in the right hands they can be amazing.

i'm really not here to judge either way. lots of ppl use stompboxes that end up sounding lame. i mean that's relative anyway: cuique suum...

peace.

NewarkWilder wrote:if its in a reasonable price range i'll definitely be grabbing one of these--



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKUgNOa5RX0[/youtube]

http://www.teenageengineering.com/products/op-1/

want...........this is cooler than the yamaha thingie.....

and would go MIGHT good with your elektron stuff