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Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:10 pm
by resincum
ezhi & aka polarized tape flutter? got one on the way. i’ll let ya know if it bangs :evil:

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:19 pm
by rfurtkamp
The Digitech RDS rack units will do destructive time-based effects (and is non-destructive to the sample and hold loop, ie you can wank the time around and come back to where you were and it's restored to its original condition) - it's best on whatever is done sample and hold, but what you're describing is perfectly doable with them.

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:23 am
by Blood_mountain
niftyprose wrote:UglyCasanova mentioned Mid-Fi. The Scrape Flutter ( https://www.midfielectronics.com/scrape-flutter ) is Doug's present offering, although my own preference is for the (sigh) elusive random chorus which he produced in limited numbers a couple of years back with which it obviously shares DNA.

Going further back, Holowon's Tape Soup ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDs7fbAfyo ) would be worth checking out, although for my money it lacks the finesse of the Mid-Fi box.
I just got a Midfi Scrape Flutter, and it’s a different sound than the majority of the “tape” sounds described here. Scrape flutter is a timbral variation in tape recordings due to friction from the mechanism. I had to look it up, I wasn’t familiar with the term. The pedal is envelope controlled, gives you everything from subtle pitch flutter to full-on, blown out speaker distortion. It’s very unique and I like it quite a lot, but I don’t think it’s quite what the OP is describing. The Tensor does one of the better tape stop sounds I’ve come across, and the Cooper FX Generation Loss is still my favourite lofi modulation. The CBA version has separate controls for wow and flutter.

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:53 pm
by the_bright_undead
Heraclitus Akimbo wrote:Recovery Cutting Room Floor? (not stereo, though.)
Came here to post this ^
I've found this pedal can be a little finicky, mine sometimes generates unwanted noise, I think based on it's proximity to power sources of other pedals on my board. (?) Graig at Recovery told me it had something to do with the LFO and the power. I've found just moving it around a little bit usually does the trick. But it could be a hassle in a live setting.

But, it has surprised me and become like the weird gifted child on my pedal board, I can't get enough of it. It's well worth having a sometimes noisy signal chain IMO. You can navigate between a lo-fi chorus kind of sound, with a bit of pitch vibrato, or use it as a somewhat limited delay. But it really shines in the way that it messes with other pedals before or after in in the chain.

Anyway it's got a knob labelled "Wow." That is all.

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:18 am
by niftyprose
Useful perspective from Blood_mountain there on the Scrape Flutter. The pedal is dear to my heart because it does both warbles and distortion in a small footprint with minimum controls.

I don't own one yet, so the following should be taken with a pinch of salt. However, having listened to all the demos I could, it seems to me that the warble is (ah) consistent but the fuzz seems to set in at much lower o'clocks on some than others. I think this reflects the amount of signal being sent to the pedal ie it crunches more with a humbucker.

My own projected use is with a Freeze-type pedal so presumably I can dial in gain to some extent by tweaking the previous pedal's output knob. But the ideal arrangement would be to have a gain trimpot inside the Mid-Fi device. Mine would be set to delay the onset of fuzz until early afternoon.

Best, NP

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:47 am
by Blood_mountain
niftyprose wrote:Useful perspective from Blood_mountain there on the Scrape Flutter. The pedal is dear to my heart because it does both warbles and distortion in a small footprint with minimum controls.

I don't own one yet, so the following should be taken with a pinch of salt. However, having listened to all the demos I could, it seems to me that the warble is (ah) consistent but the fuzz seems to set in at much lower o'clocks on some than others. I think this reflects the amount of signal being sent to the pedal ie it crunches more with a humbucker.

My own projected use is with a Freeze-type pedal so presumably I can dial in gain to some extent by tweaking the previous pedal's output knob. But the ideal arrangement would be to have a gain trimpot inside the Mid-Fi device. Mine would be set to delay the onset of fuzz until early afternoon.

Best, NP
Hey @niftyprose, I just got the pedal on Monday, but in addition to using it in the effect loop of my rubberneck and reverb, one of my intended uses is in the effect loop of the EHX superego. When i get around to that I’ll let you know what I find. So far it’s a super fun pedal!

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:31 pm
by voerking
Blood_mountain wrote: I just got a Midfi Scrape Flutter, and it’s a different sound than the majority of the “tape” sounds described here. Scrape flutter is a timbral variation in tape recordings due to friction from the mechanism. I had to look it up, I wasn’t familiar with the term. The pedal is envelope controlled, gives you everything from subtle pitch flutter to full-on, blown out speaker distortion. It’s very unique and I like it quite a lot, but I don’t think it’s quite what the OP is describing.
i own a Scrape Flutter & this is a better description than i could come up with! i really like it, especially set fairly subtle. it does something sort of unpredictable, but intriguing. i've used it a lot on recordings to give individual tracks some unusual texture.

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:04 pm
by Blood_mountain
voerking wrote:
Blood_mountain wrote: I just got a Midfi Scrape Flutter, and it’s a different sound than the majority of the “tape” sounds described here. Scrape flutter is a timbral variation in tape recordings due to friction from the mechanism. I had to look it up, I wasn’t familiar with the term. The pedal is envelope controlled, gives you everything from subtle pitch flutter to full-on, blown out speaker distortion. It’s very unique and I like it quite a lot, but I don’t think it’s quite what the OP is describing.
i own a Scrape Flutter & this is a better description than i could come up with! i really like it, especially set fairly subtle. it does something sort of unpredictable, but intriguing. i've used it a lot on recordings to give individual tracks some unusual texture.
I am having fun with it in the effects loop of the rubberneck - I just posted a quick clip on my IG this morning if anyone wants to hear it - @audio_semaphore

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:44 pm
by niftyprose
@audio_sempahore -- loved the instagram trax
@blood_mountain -- superego! superego!

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:32 pm
by dubkitty
i had no idea Snazzy FX still existed. i'm chuffed, because i really liked their stuff. i'd rather be shot than try to find board space for one, though. and that wouldn't really make sense anyway...given the adjustability and plethora of knobs i'd put it on a table or stand. they'd be brilliant for my loops, where i operate most things with my hands while seated. i've already spent enough of my life on my knees.

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:03 pm
by PeterBregman
You should check out @kinotoneaudio on instagram. It's not out yet, but they're working on a "tapes" pedal that does just that. It's still in development, but it's going to be rad.

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:13 pm
by Blood_mountain
PeterBregman wrote:You should check out @kinotoneaudio on instagram. It's not out yet, but they're working on a "tapes" pedal that does just that. It's still in development, but it's going to be rad.
Cool, thanks for the heads up. I'm following!

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:13 pm
by coupleonapkins
PeterBregman wrote:You should check out @kinotoneaudio on instagram. It's not out yet, but they're working on a "tapes" pedal that does just that. It's still in development, but it's going to be rad.
This looks very interesting.... :joy: :!!!: :snax:
kinotoneaudio wrote:cassette tape emulator! It’ll do real-time wow & flutter, tape age, saturation, dropouts, convolution spring reverb, anddd maybe a few other things. A lo-fi pal in a box!

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:50 am
by dubkitty
interest!

Re: Is there a "wow" (tape) effect?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:30 pm
by Chankgeez
Talk on this subject always makes me think of this song:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efchIevkZ6Q[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efchIevkZ6Q

:idk: