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Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:26 pm
by Jwar
There’s not wrong with having pedals made this way. Unless you’re some asshole charging 900 for a ducking reverb with sliders that move on there own! Ohhh! So cool! :eyeroll:


It sickens me that the pedals industry is what it is. It used to be fun, at least for me. All the shit that comes out is garbage. Hah. Just kidding I’m still a whore. But I am sick of everything being shitty. What’s up with the fuzz? What’s up with the fuzz?

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:21 am
by blackjaw
I posted a link on CNZ Instagram that pointed to where they bought aka “built” their guitars from (a quick search shows you can buy them from China for $50-75 cheaper!!)

They banned me.

Pretty sure the dude that ran Gear Supply Co to the ground is also behind CNZ; at least the marketing.

Another shitty company playing “family values” to get the PnW crowd while selling them shit they can buy from China.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:49 pm
by Blood_mountain
blackjaw wrote:I posted a link on CNZ Instagram that pointed to where they bought aka “built” their guitars from (a quick search shows you can buy them from China for $50-75 cheaper!!)

They banned me.

Pretty sure the dude that ran Gear Supply Co to the ground is also behind CNZ; at least the marketing.

Another shitty company playing “family values” to get the PnW crowd while selling them shit they can buy from China.
Yeah, their whole schtick is pretty lame.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:00 pm
by lordgalvar
ZVex vexter are Taiwan made. It's not a bad thing, but I was surprised to see that I the box.

WMD, Cusack, and Darkplace do builds for other people. In the Eurorack world, a huge amount of it is outsourced. Snazzy builds are by Bastl but I think they were someplace else first (which is a good thing compared to his personal builds).

Wren & Cuff outsource to local individual builders and I have an acquaintance that builds for them as a side gi). He made a lot of those new dinosaur jr pedals. I kind of like this system. Build at home, learn some stuff. I could imagine it could go bad fast though.

I think Koma is set up to do other builds too.

I tend to think of some places more as designers I guess.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:05 pm
by D.o.S.
aen wrote:I knew of one company that had all their stuff done at the same factory we had our enclosures printed/drilled. But the brand itself was so boring I forgot what it was, sorry guys.
Your signature is extra-brutal now. :(

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:45 pm
by Blackened Soul
Look. Deep down we all know if you aren't making your own pots and switches in a shack in the montana woods you are a poser.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:39 am
by Dandolin
tho harvesting them from rotting hulks of abandoned industrial era cast-offs seems to be righteous....

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:35 pm
by Jero
Dandolin wrote:tho harvesting them from rotting hulks of abandoned industrial era cast-offs seem to be righteous....
Pulled from something broken, to make something new that sounds broken.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:49 pm
by goroth
<insert Elton John>the ciiiiiircle of life!!

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:00 pm
by Dandolin
:group: :crab:

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:30 pm
by Blood_mountain
lordgalvar wrote:ZVex vexter are Taiwan made. It's not a bad thing, but I was surprised to see that I the box.

WMD, Cusack, and Darkplace do builds for other people. In the Eurorack world, a huge amount of it is outsourced. Snazzy builds are by Bastl but I think they were someplace else first (which is a good thing compared to his personal builds).

Wren & Cuff outsource to local individual builders and I have an acquaintance that builds for them as a side gi). He made a lot of those new dinosaur jr pedals. I kind of like this system. Build at home, learn some stuff. I could imagine it could go bad fast though.

I think Koma is set up to do other builds too.

I tend to think of some places more as designers I guess.
Super interesting! I think it’s cool to see the pedal community working together, and when it’s transparent that seems to be the best way to maintain integrity.
It’s when companies market themselves as something they’re not that bothers me.
If I was a pedal company I’d definitely be a designer because I can hardly build an edible sandwich let alone a working effect pedal.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:31 pm
by Blood_mountain
Blackened Soul wrote:Look. Deep down we all know if you aren't making your own pots and switches in a shack in the montana woods you are a poser.
Well, Montana is known for the good backwoods switches.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:16 am
by qersty
Kinda amazed how this has been the top thread this past week (kinda).

Most english fuzz pedals were outsorced to macaris/colorsound

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:38 am
by goroth
Most English fuzz pedals were outsourced to J mascis.

Re: Pedal companies that outsource their builds?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:53 am
by Blood_mountain
qersty wrote:Kinda amazed how this has been the top thread this past week (kinda).

Most english fuzz pedals were outsorced to macaris/colorsound
I often think about the true origin of a lot of the products I buy, but find I rarely ask that question to myself about the effect pedals I have. I think it’s important to know. One of the things I’ve been thinking a lot about lately is the origin of all the components that go into creating an effect pedal, how they’re produced, under what conditions, etc. I would imagine there are components being produced in less than ethical conditions, which is shitty. I know the phone I’m typing this on is the same however. It’s unavoidable I guess.