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cosmicevan wrote:I have both, I'd say go with the Tensor, but expect it to take time to bond with it. I hated mine at first and wanted to return it, but it eventually became my favorite pedal. At your feet you can do so much more even without extensions like 4 button switch/MIDI. It has 2 buttons and the left switch in NXT mode can be used for setting a tempo (sort of - not tap, but duration of hold). Functionality on the Tensor is through the roof...you can do SO much. Granted you can can do quite a bit with Particle as well, if you are looking for something different, go for the Tensor. Particle is great because it also covers regular delay duties and then some. I admittedly haven't gotten nearly as deep with my particle as I have with my Tensor, but I always recommend the Tensor. I really love that pedal.

Never wrote:Can the Tensor work as well as the Particle at regular stereo delay? That's what I really need most, but I'm wondering if I should just save the $125 I'd spend on something Boss and put it towards one of these two. I'm assuming they're true stereo..?

Never wrote:I was looking at the manuals the other day, and the v2s do accept TRS ins/outs for stereo! (So does the Context) Beyond that there's not a lot of info -- the Tensor's loop lengths are halved in stereo (or you can choose to sum to mono and pass dry stereo instead), Particle doesn't say

But yeah you're probably right, always good to have a DD-7 or something around

Never wrote:Can the Tensor work as well as the Particle at regular stereo delay? That's what I really need most, but I'm wondering if I should just save the $125 I'd spend on something Boss and put it towards one of these two. I'm assuming they're true stereo..?

cosmicevan wrote:

Never wrote:Can the Tensor work as well as the Particle at regular stereo delay? That's what I really need most, but I'm wondering if I should just save the $125 I'd spend on something Boss and put it towards one of these two. I'm assuming they're true stereo..?

They are stereo if updated and latest chip set. I haven't gotten anything remotely similar to a delay out of my tensor (though Drolo Stamme[n] does a solid ping pong delay if you need a glitch/delay).

Tensor does the rewind thing amazingly. That's one of my main uses. Another is pitched faster.

frigid midget wrote:Been messing for mine for an hour or so, without really bothering to look into the manual obviously

As expected, not exactly an intuitive pedal to right away make pop tunes with. I'm loving the way I can control loops, don't think there's a whole lot of other compact loopers that do more than just reverse and half speed.

Edit: deleted a dumb noob question. User error. Enjoying the new toy more and more. This thing is actually pretty straight forward, weird that it somehow confused me at first. As always with loopers though, playing back a loop through the same amp you're playing through at the same time...is a mess :/
One cuts out the other, there's no real way of blending the volumes so there's a nice mix. If I'm keeping it and ever start playing out again, it's gonna be with two amps.

Dowi wrote:

frigid midget wrote:Been messing for mine for an hour or so, without really bothering to look into the manual obviously

As expected, not exactly an intuitive pedal to right away make pop tunes with. I'm loving the way I can control loops, don't think there's a whole lot of other compact loopers that do more than just reverse and half speed.

Edit: deleted a dumb noob question. User error. Enjoying the new toy more and more. This thing is actually pretty straight forward, weird that it somehow confused me at first. As always with loopers though, playing back a loop through the same amp you're playing through at the same time...is a mess :/
One cuts out the other, there's no real way of blending the volumes so there's a nice mix. If I'm keeping it and ever start playing out again, it's gonna be with two amps.

When you have this kind of "overload" problems usually the trick is to loop and then play over with two different sounds, maybe focusing on different frequency ranges, so that each layer remains recognizable, if that's your purpose.

Side note, today my substitute with newer-s/n Tensor got here, can't wait to check the extended looping time in the next days.

cosmicevan wrote:I have both, I'd say go with the Tensor, but expect it to take time to bond with it. I hated mine at first and wanted to return it, but it eventually became my favorite pedal. At your feet you can do so much more even without extensions like 4 button switch/MIDI. It has 2 buttons and the left switch in NXT mode can be used for setting a tempo (sort of - not tap, but duration of hold). Functionality on the Tensor is through the roof...you can do SO much. Granted you can can do quite a bit with Particle as well, if you are looking for something different, go for the Tensor. Particle is great because it also covers regular delay duties and then some. I admittedly haven't gotten nearly as deep with my particle as I have with my Tensor, but I always recommend the Tensor. I really love that pedal.

frigid midget wrote:[l
It even bothers me when I loop a single layer and try to play something over it. Flicking the pickup selecter on my guitar and not having both the loop and the live notes in the same frequency range doesn't seem to make much difference, there's still an overload issue going on, where my singe 12" speaker refuses to treat both signals equally.
Whatever, it'll do for now. If I ever start playing out again, I'll have two amps, that should fix it.

Dowi wrote:

frigid midget wrote:[l
It even bothers me when I loop a single layer and try to play something over it. Flicking the pickup selecter on my guitar and not having both the loop and the live notes in the same frequency range doesn't seem to make much difference, there's still an overload issue going on, where my singe 12" speaker refuses to treat both signals equally.
Whatever, it'll do for now. If I ever start playing out again, I'll have two amps, that should fix it.

That's weird, are you layering harmonically rich phrases (like, heavily distorted etc) one on another? Or maybe you are pushing the am into saturation and it compresses the signal a lot? That could be a reason. Having more speakers surely helps, but I have pretty decent results even with the Katana 50w,which has a single 12" speaker.