Chase Bliss don't deserve to be the boutique darlings

[Woolworm]

Generation Loss

\Oh look another pedal he didn't design but stuck his stupid company name over. That's like what? 5-6 pedals that aren't his. And who knows what else he has stolen in the circuitry of his other pedals.

Please continue to vent I'm really enjoying this

Thank you, Im blessed Im blessed

[raj007]

Maybe I missed it...but no mention of the slider pedals? Rant on those please.

[goroth]

Maybe I missed it...but no mention of the slider pedals? Rant on those please.

I mentioned the spider amp.

Is that not good enough for you?

[Woolworm]

Maybe I missed it...but no mention of the slider pedals? Rant on those please.

Oh my god I completely forget. Yeah talk about extortionate, and didn't they work with someone to do it as well? And I don't understand what their benefit is? Someone fill me in? Double the unoriginality there.

[Dowi]

I meant to write an extended answer but decided it wasn't worth it, and I don't want to ruin the mood of the thread.
So, go on please!

[Woolworm]

I meant to write an extended answer but decided it wasn't worth it, and I don't want to ruin the mood of the thread.
So, go on please!

No no, I want your answer, I want your RETORT!

[coldbrightsunlight]

[Dowi]

Don't have time right now. Maybe later, maybe not.

[phantasmagorovich]

Ah, the last time I logged in was years ago, but still ILF is here.

I love you dudes to bits.

The hype is real and I remember how Joel used to post on here a lot (does he still?) and the first pedals came out. Warped Vinyl was the rage back then, because it was what everybody wanted and at the time no-one had the wobbly LFO down, Vibrato was still pretty much just a sine wave modulation. Like the only real contender was Hexe iirc so he really had something going on there. Then stuff got a little repetitive and honestly I don't know why I should buy a drive pedal with that amount of control, when all I want is either a nicely coloured foundation (set and leave on) or a plunge into hell (set and stomp for an unexpected turn of fate). Anyway, then along came the slider pedals (co-op with Meris) and the other co-op pedals. And I would really like to know if it works out for someone like David Rolo to license his Algos out like that. I mean, he has probably written them once and now has a steady cash flow with no strings attached.

In my opinion the industry can only benefit from these sort of cooperations. You get easier accessible great circuits, the small builders benefit from either a steady cash flow that helps them along or from a single buy-outs that might help them invest in furthering their business (unless they're US-based. It will probably go towards medical bills in that case.)
That said, it's about time Chase Bliss scales up into mass production. And lower the damn prices. The MIDI platform is the same for all these pedals, as is the whole dipswitch thingey. Mass produce that shit in Taiwan. Plop in the actual circuit in Portland or wherever and cut 20% off the price. Or if they are all based on the same Arduino chip, then just flash the algorithm on the thing over there and do a proper QC at home. 30% off, numbers that actually meet the demand.

[fcknoise]

Hm but then again, is "boutique darlings" a title you want? All those features, the price and build quality of their shit certainly would like automatically put them up there. As is the case with Spaceman or D*A*M, right?

I am totally fine with most of my gear not being boutique darling stuff, that in itself is not a goal for me.

If I treated my pedals as pokémon cards and instagram as the schoolyard I might have actually cared more about what the social status of my pedals is. But as long as I am mainly recording I suppose I don't

[Dowi]

And 550 dollars for a looper? ARE YOU FUCKING OUT OF YOUR MIND! I don't care if its 'creative looper' or whatever. You see that Boss 10-R? 32 bit 192k SR. Look at that fucking audio quality, you can record that shit like a pro audio interface on the go. And its got a rhythm section / drum machine. .

fcknoise and phantasmagorovich got some relevant points so I won't repeat what they said.
I am no CBA fanboy by any stretch of imagination, and i'm saying this having never OWNED a CBA pedal - mainly because price and size, plus I have no interest on a lot of their products but this does not mean I think they suck.

if you consider the price of older "advanced" loopers like the Boomerang or Pigtronix Infinity, the Blooper is not that far compared to them. It's not comparable to BOSS RC units, it's not "normal" looper, the implementations are many and some are really original. And i don't think its purpose was "super high fidelity audio quality" but more focused on the loop-mangling side of things (the appeal for the Instagram bedroom musician is strong).
Is the price high for my possibilities? yes, but i don't have the technical know-how to understand how much of it is a "pumped" price, and how much is justified by the develop/parts/building process.
I'd love to grab a Blooper sooner or later (even if i hate its small size and the footswitches being so close), and i'm just going to wait until i find one at a reasonable price for my pockets.

So... what pedals made Chase Bliss the boutique darlings? The Mood and the Blooper. Two pedals that dork Joel didn't even design.

You think, I.e. Bill Gates personally programmed every Windows update in Microsoft history? do i really have to explain how things work when your company grows?

Red Panda should be the boutique darlings. But they haven't released a pedal in a long time. people are easy to forget.

At this point I don't know what you mean with "boutique darlings", afaik they are very well known and appreciated. what do you define as "a long time"? Red Panda came out with the Context 2 less than 1 year ago.

[Woolworm]

Hm but then again, is "boutique darlings" a title you want? All those features, the price and build quality of their shit certainly would like automatically put them up there. As is the case with Spaceman or D*A*M, right?

I am totally fine with most of my gear not being boutique darling stuff, that in itself is not a goal for me.

If I treated my pedals as pokémon cards and instagram as the schoolyard I might have actually cared more about what the social status of my pedals is. But as long as I am mainly recording I suppose I don't

It's about attacking people. Making them feel bad for climbing out of the hole they came from.

[qersty]

I don't care for the new stuff but I want to try the flanger and phaser. Spectre especially, I feel it is still unmatched feature-wise.

[coldbrightsunlight]

Hm but then again, is "boutique darlings" a title you want? All those features, the price and build quality of their shit certainly would like automatically put them up there. As is the case with Spaceman or D*A*M, right?

I am totally fine with most of my gear not being boutique darling stuff, that in itself is not a goal for me.

If I treated my pedals as pokémon cards and instagram as the schoolyard I might have actually cared more about what the social status of my pedals is. But as long as I am mainly recording I suppose I don't

It's about attacking people. Making them feel bad for climbing out of the hole they came from.

Well you've made me very happy indeed I crawled out of bed over the last few days

[Woolworm]

And 550 dollars for a looper? ARE YOU FUCKING OUT OF YOUR MIND! I don't care if its 'creative looper' or whatever. You see that Boss 10-R? 32 bit 192k SR. Look at that fucking audio quality, you can record that shit like a pro audio interface on the go. And its got a rhythm section / drum machine. .

fcknoise and phantasmagorovich got some relevant points so I won't repeat what they said.
I am no CBA fanboy by any stretch of imagination, and i'm saying this having never OWNED a CBA pedal - mainly because price and size, plus I have no interest on a lot of their products but this does not mean I think they suck.

if you consider the price of older "advanced" loopers like the Boomerang or Pigtronix Infinity, the Blooper is not that far compared to them. It's not comparable to BOSS RC units, it's not "normal" looper, the implementations are many and some are really original. And i don't think its purpose was "super high fidelity audio quality" but more focused on the loop-mangling side of things (the appeal for the Instagram bedroom musician is strong).
Is the price high for my possibilities? yes, but i don't have the technical know-how to understand how much of it is a "pumped" price, and how much is justified by the develop/parts/building process.
I'd love to grab a Blooper sooner or later (even if i hate its small size and the footswitches being so close), and i'm just going to wait until i find one at a reasonable price for my pockets.

So... what pedals made Chase Bliss the boutique darlings? The Mood and the Blooper. Two pedals that dork Joel didn't even design.

You think, I.e. Bill Gates personally programmed every Windows update in Microsoft history? do i really have to explain how things work when your company grows?

Red Panda should be the boutique darlings. But they haven't released a pedal in a long time. people are easy to forget.

At this point I don't know what you mean with "boutique darlings", afaik they are very well known and appreciated. what do you define as "a long time"? Red Panda came out with the Context 2 less than 1 year ago.

The Boss 10-R instantly owned the Pigtronix and Boomerang just by the sheer fact of its high fidelity. With the Boss I can record audio on the go and be confident in its quality and then go and send it through my audio interface, or because its already in high fidelity, I can just grab the sound file instantly. Who fucking cares about Pigtronix's dual looping. They have the gall to call it hi-fi with 24 bit 48k sr? What a joke. Forget Pigtronix, that company waved the white flag years ago.

So now I'm supposed to have a second looper to my looper because I need a proper looper? And at 550 dollars? Nah, can't do it.

The context and particle 2's are updates, I wouldn't call them new pedals. Most of the modes are the same, you know its hard to call them new pedals.

Also, its just your most 'innovative' pedals you didn't even design? Not to mention the Zvex coattail riding?

Okay yes, your pedals are both analogue and digital or whatever, and you add way more functionality with dipswitches, but soon enough, pedals and hardware fx will become more and more like DAW's and plugins. This is not gonna be something that's special soon.