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Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:32 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
Musical talent sounds good?

Nah, get out of here.

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:33 pm
by D.o.S.
Yeah that is a bad take.

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:44 am
by goroth
I was playing with this sound and I'm fairly certain it is a two octave interval. To get it clean you've gotta have something to dampen the strings, like one of those stupid shred sock scrunchy things.

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:30 am
by coldbrightsunlight
Or play the piano.



:snax:

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:30 am
by lost in music
Addy Bart wrote:Check out the Parasit Studios site. The Arcadiator or Side Scroller do some of that pulse width modulation magic.

https://www.parasitstudio.se/original-effects.html
Seconding this.

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:57 pm
by zoooombiex
Yeah, sounds like a 1 octave interval.

In terms of how it was originally made, you're right it could have been (probably was) just sequenced to play the notes rapidly rather than any kind of recorded live performance/effect.

On a synth, that would be super easy to recreate. Square wave LFO modulating the oscillator frequency, set to a 1-octave swing.

On a guitar, the Moog ClusterFlux could certainly do that, maybe the Moog Delay. Pitch pirate is another option that someone mentioned. Maybe Chase Bliss chorus/delay too (again, square wave LFO's depth set to octave). About any vibrato (or short delay) with a square wave LFO and depth that goes up to an octave should be able to get you there.

Not hearing ring mod - with ring mod you would hear both frequencies at the same time; that is definitely alternating.

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:16 pm
by drolo
lost in music wrote:
Addy Bart wrote:Check out the Parasit Studios site. The Arcadiator or Side Scroller do some of that pulse width modulation magic.

https://www.parasitstudio.se/original-effects.html
Seconding this.
thirded

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:39 pm
by elevenstrings
I got pretty close awhile back using the sequencer on the Super 4th Door.

(sorry don't know how to embed instagram videos)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXdwqxJBv5J/

I think it was just flipping between two octaves at a super fast rate.

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:02 pm
by Pepe
This is why I love my KORG Poly-61 synthesizer. It can create exactly THESE sounds. I love it to pieces, because it has all the cool Atari game arpeggio sounds.

And this is indeed a narrow pulsewidth sound with an octave arpeggio. No doubts about that.
With guitar I could achieve something like that with my KORG KWS-301 wave shaper, my BOSS OC-3 and go from its stereo outs into the stereo inputs of my PN-2 and use the full wet square panning mode in mono out. :idea:

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:49 pm
by K2000
Doesn't the Arpanoid do something like this, if not exactly?

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:20 am
by Pepe
Pepe wrote:With guitar I could achieve something like that with my KORG KWS-301 wave shaper, my BOSS OC-3 and go from its stereo outs into the stereo inputs of my PN-2 and use the full wet square panning mode in mono out. :idea:
I just tried it out a few minutes ago. It doesn't come too near to the desired sound. But it sounds cool on its own. The PN-2's LFO isn't fast enough and you really have to pitch it an octave higher than the original sound, not below. You will have to make your guitar sound like a square wave first and then you need a good sounding pitch shifter. Or a KORG Poly-61 ... ;)

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:34 am
by Pladask
Hi guys
I'm writing an algorithm that does this effect. Can post them here when it's completed. The idea is to have a knob for pitch transposition rate (how fast you skip between your regular pitch and the shifted pitch) and a knob that sets the pitch shift interval. This control will be divided into steps. Could you guys give me some recommendations on what steps to include? So far I have:
-1 ocatve
-7 semitones
+7 semitones
+1 ocatve
+1 ocatve and 7 semitones

Also I have room for one additional parameter. Any suggestions ?

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:28 pm
by goroth
Glissando, or duty cycle (would only be interesting at lower frequencies though)

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:49 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
goroth wrote:Glissando, or duty cycle (would only be interesting at lower frequencies though)
gliss would be best I think?

Or instead, depending on how the algorithm works whether it's possible to code without tweaking, I think it might sound really good to have a tremolo synced to the pitch change with adjustable depth (to smooth out the binary note shifts in a different way to glissando).

-5 semitones would probably be a good interval, as far as those go. I would have to hear the algorithm in action to decide if 3rd and 6ths would sound awful or good.. :lol:

Re: opinions on what effect this is: square wave vibrato?

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:00 pm
by Pladask
Thank you for your input :) hoping to have this done by tomorrow so if anyone else feel giving input now is the time