Companies to avoid for "reasons". Confine hate postin' here

[Chankgeez]

You're taking this thread the wrong way, Hammer.

[The Velvet Hammer]

Then you might want to consider changing the thread title...

[actual]

tf

[Chankgeez]

Then you might want to consider changing the thread title...

OK.

[jrfox92]

tf

[Chankgeez]

In the eyes of the Velvet Hammer, I was needlessly singling out the BossMann.

That was not necessarily my intention.

Let this thread be for anybody who has a gripe against a gear company. All hate spew should go here.

[tremolo3]

Any company who takes orders without having the product in stock is a no-no in my book.

[MechaGodzilla]

fuck zvex for putting the 9v inputs so close to the signal input so that you basically have to use one of those twatty overpriced patch leads with teeny tiny jacks that SUCK.

[$harkToootth]

The only issues I have with companies are 'economic' and 'logistic' reasons. This leads into an interesting discussion question...

Often you will find companies do not know how to charge for the 'time' that went developing a new product. Once you have your circuit, or algorithm, from what I understand, it's easy enough to put your product together (provided you own your production equipment already and have your supply chain down). You're not reinventing the wheel with production (hence why a lot of pedal and euro companies have similar layouts across their catalogue [for context think OBNE, Alexander, 4ms, Chase Bliss; to be adamantly clear, I'm only using these companies as examples to illustrate similar layouts]).

My issue is when companies want to incorporate that 'time' into the price. So think of a pedal that cost $150 to make, a company has their standard mark-up, I just have issues where said mark up is an exuberant amount per a two - three year 'development period'. I don't think the consumer should pay for that, you (the company) did not come up with a product.

Not that I'm not up for making money off ideas but within reason (and fortunately most if not all ILF builders keep prices within reason despite what may have been a long development period). I guess, I have an issue when a company "flaunts" how long their development period was and that they should charge more for a product because of 'time' they spent, and perhaps not efficiently.

Thoughts???

[sylnau]

I tought this forum was about love.

[Chankgeez]

Yeah, that's why all the hate talk should be confined to this thread…

… and this one: viewtopic.php?f=42&t=12806

[jrfox92]

[The Velvet Hammer]

At least BM has a friend in someone.

I mean, not all of us can condone alt-right sympathizers that have to derail every fucking thread that concerns a company they don't like because of their own apparent persecution complex.

Please reconsider this post.

I may not agree with a persons politics or opinions but less still will I tolerate bullying.

You may love Louise Belcher but not everything has to crash and burn, please edit the post and don't have me do it.

[oldangelmidnight]

My issue is when companies want to incorporate that 'time' into the price. So think of a pedal that cost $150 to make, a company has their standard mark-up, I just have issues where said mark up is an exuberant amount per a two - three year 'development period'.

Yeah, I've seen that mentioned sometimes and I think - What if you're just not very good at this and you spent a year working on something that would have taken someone else a couple of weeks?
But sometimes innovations take time to troubleshoot and I'm glad to pay someone to work out the bugs before releasing something.

[$harkToootth]

@oldangelmidnight - UGH Exactly, 100%. That's where it gets tricky for me. I think a good case study example will be how much the Geiger Counter Pro costs when it is released.