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PumpkinPieces wrote:sometimes the placement of buffers in the signal chain can keep things under control

i totally should've thought of that.

^ didn't help.

Try doing some low passing. Either after the dirt, after the verb, or do a parallel chain with the reverb on a send and low pass that. Compression after the dirt could also possibly help.

i'll have to mess w/ EQ and compression, i doubt i'd wanna use a filter though.

also re: send/return, i've been playing guitar for over 2 decades and have never used it until this.
regardless, my orange has it as an option, my sovtek doesn't. so i'm hoping to find a way to fix this without that.

space6oy wrote: i doubt i'd wanna use a filter though.

That is of course up to you, but can I ask why?

well, it'd cut the high end that gets boosted, but it'd take away definition too.

That is true, if you run the effects in series, but if you run them in parallel, and only cut the highs of the reverb, then you'd retain the full spectrum and definition of the fuzz, but without the high end build-up of the reverb or vice versa.

hmm. interesting thought. like i mentioned though, orange has that option, sovtek does not.

A mixer would probably be best for this type of application anyway.

this is for a live rig, not a recording session. i don't want to involve a mixer.

Again, up to you, buuut

now that i think about it using a splitter to just send the clean to the reverb and the fuzz bypassing it could be cool - i do like being able to mix dry w/ fuzz sometimes (TAFM), but i'm still wondering why some reverbs do this to a fuzz signal and others don't.

Could be the head you're running through that's giving you some issues too. I know my Peavey gets a massive volume boost from guitar->magick fuzz->ghost echo->amp but my Sunn and Fender just seem to fatten with the same setup and no knob tweaks. There might be something in the tone stack/preamp that harshens the effect? Just a thought

orange TH30 and sovtek midget 50, same scenario. really doubt it has anything to do w/ the amps.

No you're right on the amps. I've just seen and experienced strangeness like this before where the tone stack was the culprit. Could be impedance related, have you tried just throwing a buffer between them, like a boss pedal turned off?