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Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:01 pm
by agiant
I put a Rusty Box after the hm2 and ... boom!

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:13 pm
by frodog
Having just compared both my MiT HM-2 and Arion Metal Master, both dimed, gain on zero (albeit on different amps, set to pretty equal volume) it seems the Metal Master is louder. It is at least a cheap option if you wanna try yrself.

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:30 am
by BoatRich
sylnau wrote:Have you look at the Earthbound Audio Troath Locust?
http://earthboundaudio.bigcartel.com/pr ... oat-locust
Yeah I really want one, but money and such.

On my phone and just realized I can't multiquote, but lower gain pickups might work but I'm playing a bass vi in a loud as fuck band with another bass player and a guitarist. We can turn down to an extent but it's literally pointless when playing heavier genres, defeats the atmosphere and we literally never get mic'd at venues.

Honestly heavily considered a metalzone? It really does do the chainsaw thing pretty well and I like parametric EQ.

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:48 am
by goroth
There a rumour Dismember stacked hm-2s with ds-1s. Must be noisy as shit but could be worth diming the volume on a ds-1 after your hm-2. No idea what the other settings were, or if it is true...

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:23 am
by Dapper Bandit
Never had an issue with my MIT as far as volume goes, could easily pass unity. The other bassist in my old band used one for a section where the gain and high knobs were dimed and the lows completely cut for a couple of bridges and getting the volume to balance with that setting was tricky due to frequencies, maybe your settings are clashing with either the bassist or the guitarist?

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:25 am
by dandy13
BoatRich wrote:.....I'm playing a bass vi in a loud as fuck band with another bass player and a guitarist. We can turn down to an extent but it's literally pointless when playing heavier genres, defeats the atmosphere and we literally never get mic'd at venues.

Honestly heavily considered a metalzone? It really does do the chainsaw thing pretty well and I like parametric EQ.
Based on your situation I think adding an EQ is the best suggestion

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:54 am
by John Matrix
Maybe try the DOD Boneshaker? The EQ is pretty extreme and I was able to dial in some buzzsaw tones that had a similar flavor to my HM2. Pretty damn loud. It wasn't exactly the same but it scratched the itch I thought.

Some people are flipping theirs for like $40 in the recent thread about them.

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:01 pm
by Jwar
multi_s wrote:just tell the rest of your band to turn down.
Does this actually work?

In my experience, although limited, when I played with guitar players it was like a fucking battle of who can be the loudest. They always would win because of the high frequencies (at least for me because that shit hurts my goddamn ears). Also drummers. LOL

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:16 pm
by multi_s
ya i think that was sort of the joke. your experience is mostly similar to my own (:

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:21 pm
by $harkToootth
Lone Wolf Audio makes a few "adaptations". Abominable Electronics also has one.

For the amount of times I have looked for an HM-2 clone and said "too expensive" I could have just bought an HM-2.

I have a couple distortion pedals and I find with some eq'ing you can get those toanz. But I guess that is not the issue...it is loudness.

Anyone into anything with an even higher gain than an HM-2? I tend to favor disgusting and stupidly distorted toanz.

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:27 pm
by goroth
If you want loud as fuck and ballpark just pick up an Elements.
Set the mids to 1200hz, asymmetric silicone clipping, low gain with gain near max, mids maxed, no (or little) bass cut, crank the bass eq... max volume. That's going to be a million dB over unity.

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:30 pm
by SquareWaveFuzz
Could it just be that you're fighting the natural compression of a dirty amp? Because if so, no matter how much volume you pump into it, it's never going to get louder just more distorted.

In that case, EQing out unnecessary frequencies would give you a bit more headroom and make it sound louder :idk:

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:18 pm
by BoatRich
SquareWaveFuzz wrote:Could it just be that you're fighting the natural compression of a dirty amp? Because if so, no matter how much volume you pump into it, it's never going to get louder just more distorted.

In that case, EQing out unnecessary frequencies would give you a bit more headroom and make it sound louder :idk:
This is definitely part of the issue and I'm working on fixing that. Waiting on a possible 200 watt V4 clone.
goroth wrote:If you want loud as fuck and ballpark just pick up an Elements.
Set the mids to 1200hz, asymmetric silicone clipping, low gain with gain near max, mids maxed, no (or little) bass cut, crank the bass eq... max volume. That's going to be a million dB over unity.
The Elements is definitely on my list, because the Bitquest is my forever pedal.

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:42 pm
by Jwar
multi_s wrote:ya i think that was sort of the joke. your experience is mostly similar to my own (:
I know it was a joke. Mine was also a non funny joke. :cry:





Can I recommend just tossing the HM2 and getting something different? I feel like I kind of hate the sound of an HM2 except this bastard sounds brilliant.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXLTv85Vri4[/youtube]

Re: HM-2 but louder?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:48 pm
by $harkToootth
There are two LONE WOLF AUDIO pedals coming out that have my interest. One is a more dynamic distortion, the other a very high gain. But like jwar said, something outside the HM-2 paradigm.

I enjoy my WMD Acoustic Trauma. They packed 17 knobs on that thing!