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Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:10 pm
by actual
tremolo3 wrote:
ognoy wrote:That is a lot of nice features inside a small package!
If only the looper had the controls of the SMMH I would be all over this.
Let's wait for the Deluxe Canyon =)
*Canyon x4

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:45 pm
by tremolo3
actualidiot wrote:
tremolo3 wrote:
ognoy wrote:That is a lot of nice features inside a small package!
If only the looper had the controls of the SMMH I would be all over this.
Let's wait for the Deluxe Canyon =)
*Canyon x4
They better don't TC that Canyon... I will be stomping the switch A LOT!

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:43 pm
by Dandolin
Sounds reasonable to me.

But I don't think EHX are known for being good listeners?

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:45 pm
by Faldoe
vidret wrote:I won't stop hating EHX until they realize what I told them back in 2010.

Just make a hazarai with:

better sounding delay overall (put the tone knob in the regen loop)
have the reverb be on the dry sound, not only fx sound
fix the modulation up
top jacks
make the delay swoosh when changing delay time

It's relatively easy, and they still haven't done it. Won't stop hating on them til they fix what could've been such a near-perfect pedal as can be.
You think they'd re-release a pedal with minor changes?


Regarding EHX listening. I think they do a bit of looking into what's hot or people may want. They seem to match to their on tune though.

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:29 pm
by Invisible Man
vidret wrote:I won't stop hating EHX until they realize what I told them back in 2010.

Just make a hazarai with:

better sounding delay overall (put the tone knob in the regen loop)
have the reverb be on the dry sound, not only fx sound
fix the modulation up
top jacks
make the delay swoosh when changing delay time

It's relatively easy, and they still haven't done it. Won't stop hating on them til they fix what could've been such a near-perfect pedal as can be.

And fix the volume drop.
And add a third stomp for dedicated looping.

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:34 pm
by Cody_Pole
Invisible Man wrote:
vidret wrote:I won't stop hating EHX until they realize what I told them back in 2010.

Just make a hazarai with:

better sounding delay overall (put the tone knob in the regen loop)
have the reverb be on the dry sound, not only fx sound
fix the modulation up
top jacks
make the delay swoosh when changing delay time

It's relatively easy, and they still haven't done it. Won't stop hating on them til they fix what could've been such a near-perfect pedal as can be.

And fix the volume drop.
And add a third stomp for dedicated looping.

This, so much this!

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:56 pm
by oscillateur
That one seems pretty cool... Depending on what secondary functions are available for each mode and how they implemented it (hopefully waiting for the knob to reach the already set value rather than jumping to the new knob position) and whether these secondary settings are stored when the pedal is powered down or not.

Still, tempting (depending on these details), even though I already have too many delays... :)

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:57 pm
by Seedy
moogboy wrote:What a pedal good lord ! ! !
Holy Guacamole indeed. This...this is good.

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:12 pm
by penelope tree
I'm interested in the multi-tap mode. I hope that it's similar to the SMMH's multi-tap setting, which is good for Shoegaze style smears.

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:33 pm
by Hobbes96
actualidiot wrote:
tremolo3 wrote:
ognoy wrote:That is a lot of nice features inside a small package!
If only the looper had the controls of the SMMH I would be all over this.
Let's wait for the Deluxe Canyon =)
*Canyon x4
*Grand Canyon

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:47 pm
by oscillateur
Ok, I checked the manual. The secondary functions are quite nice and it looks like with a min delay time of 5ms it could do chorus/vibrato with the modulated delay setting. Nice range of modulation, too. Can also be used as a plate reverb with predelay in verb mode with no feedback.

Also, it's not explicitly specified but it looks like knobs jump to values as soon as they're moved, which is not super smart (waiting until the knob reaches the current value and blinking the LED when this happens is usually much better). Tails option is nice. And hopefully the tap tempo in can take triggers from a modular/etc. So, super tempting. Even with a damn shimmer mode.

SECONDARY KNOB FUNCTIONS BY DELAY MODE

ECHO – No secondary knob functions.

MOD – The DELAY knob controls modulation rate. Factory default is 0.15Hz, at the 8 o’clock position of the knob. This can be adjusted from 0.01Hz to 328Hz. The FEEDBACK knob controls modulation depth. Default is at the 12 o’clock position of the knob.

MULTI – The DELAY knob controls volume decay/swell. Factory default is at 12 o’clock, with no decay or swell. As the knob is turned up, the first delayed echoes will become quieter. At maximum position, the echoes will increase in volume from silence. As the knob is turned down, the last delayed echoes will become quieter. At minimum position, the echoes will decay to silence, which will sound identical to ECHO mode.

REVRS – The DELAY knob controls pluck sensitivity. Turn the knob up to make the CANYON more sensitive to your pluck attack, turn it down to reduce sensitivity. Factory default is maximum sensitivity with the knob fully clockwise.

DMM – The CANYON can emulate the lush analog modulation of the EHX Deluxe Memory Man. It is disabled as a factory default, but can be turned on using the FEEDBACK knob in secondary knob mode. FEEDBACK controls modulation depth, and factory default is zero, with the knob fully counterclockwise. Turn the knob up to increase modulation. The DELAY knob controls modulation rate. Factory default is 0.75Hz, at the 10 o’clock position of the knob, which corresponds to the Deluxe Memory Man’s Chorus setting. Set this knob to the noon position to reach the DMM’s Vibrato setting.

TAPE – The DELAY knob controls the amount of tape distortion, emulating an aging tape. Factory default is 10 o’clock. The FEEDBACK knob controls Tape Flutter modulation depth. Factory default is 9 o’clock. Turn both knobs to the minimum position for a clean, fresh tape tone.

VERB – The DELAY knob controls the reverb time. Factory default is 11 o’clock. Turn this knob up for longer reverb tails, turn it down for shorter. The FEEDBACK knob controls a low pass filter on the reverb. Factory default is set to maximum. Turn this knob down to get a darker reverb sound.

OCT – Using Secondary Knob Mode, it is possible to get ascending octaves, descending octaves, or both with the CANYON. The DELAY knob controls the Up Octave (ascending). Factory default is the maximum position. The FEEDBACK controls the Sub Octave (descending). Factory default is the minimum position, in which the Sub Octave is muted.

SHIM – The DELAY knob controls a low pass filter on the shimmer effect. Factory default is set to maximum (filter wide open). Turn this knob down to get a warmer shimmer sound. The FEEDBACK knob controls modulation depth. Factory default is set to 9 o’clock.

S/H – Similarly to MULTI mode, the DELAY knob controls volume decay/swell on Sample/Hold mode. Factory default is set to 12 o’clock with no decay or swell. If the knob is turned above 12 o’clock, the echoes will begin silent and increase in volume until the level set by the FX LVL knob. As the knob is turned up, the amount of time it takes to reach full volume increases. If this knob is turned below 12 o’clock, the repeats will decay. As the knob is turned down, the amount of time it takes to reach silence decreases.

LOOP – No secondary knob functions.

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:55 pm
by Faldoe
Edit*** ^^^ beat me to it.

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:02 am
by askashrub
Overdub until the soup is done.

This is a great pedal.
Had me at multi mode.

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:13 am
by goroth
tremolo3 wrote:
ognoy wrote:That is a lot of nice features inside a small package!
If only the looper had the controls of the SMMH I would be all over this.
Let's wait for the Deluxe Canyon =)
You mean the... Grand Canyon?

:picard:

Re: EHX Canyon Delay/Looper

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:47 am
by oscillateur
That joke's old, it's already on the previous page ;)