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Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:40 pm
by Mudfuzz
jwar wrote:I always had a 5 just to play Type O Negative covers.

I thought that was why everyone had one?
:idk: Pete used a 5 in carnivore but I always thought a 4 for all the type O stuff..

Really though a low B should be like all your other strings just a 4th lower. Here is a test, play on the string above the 5th fret, it should sound relatively the same compared to you open E string as playing the A on your E string to your open A. If it doesn't your issues could be: your string set is unbalanced and you might want to try a different string [bigger, smaller, different material etc] you pickups, low to medium out put pickups [without a preamp] don't always work well on lower tuned strings, your bass has a structural issue [lose bridge saddle, improperly fit nut, screw need to be tightened], you amp need to be something other or something :idk: all my bass with B strings and F# strings for that matter all sound fine through my 18 watt fender baseman 20 [tube 1x15 combo] :idk:

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:57 am
by jrfox92
jwar wrote:
JonnyAngle wrote:
jwar wrote:I always had a 5 just to play Type O Negative covers.

I thought that was why everyone had one?
That's how I get the MBV toanz
MBV blows tho. As does all shoegaze...
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Let the shitshow commence.

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:11 am
by Blackened Soul
and the battle over alternative music begins?

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:32 am
by rickenbastard
Mudfuzz wrote:
jwar wrote:I always had a 5 just to play Type O Negative covers.

I thought that was why everyone had one?
:idk: Pete used a 5 in carnivore but I always thought a 4 for all the type O stuff..
He always played a 4 string as he never tuned lower than C. He is the only reason I have a chorus pedal.

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:20 am
by Mudfuzz
rickenbastard wrote:
Mudfuzz wrote:
jwar wrote:I always had a 5 just to play Type O Negative covers.

I thought that was why everyone had one?
:idk: Pete used a 5 in carnivore but I always thought a 4 for all the type O stuff..
He always played a 4 string as he never tuned lower than C. He is the only reason I have a chorus pedal.
:idk: I could have sworn I've seen a vid with a grey jazz plus 5.. I could be wrong

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:02 am
by JonnyAngle
Blackened Soul wrote:and the battle over alternative music begins?
We can all agree that the toadies kick ass

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:10 am
by Jwar
Pete used a 5 string Alembic at one point, which I was pretty sure was a 5 and I was also pretty sure he used a Jazz 5 in Carnivore at times, though I could be wrong. He did use one live when I saw him because I was surprised to see it. I meant I used a 5 because I was too lazy to drop tune. I mean, Pete used a thick b string for his 4 from what I heard anyway, so no difference really .

Also, many Type O songs are in B.

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:55 am
by whoismarykelly
Compression is key to good bass tone below standard tuning.

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:30 pm
by dinoadventures
Mudfuzz wrote:
rickenbastard wrote:
Mudfuzz wrote:
jwar wrote:I always had a 5 just to play Type O Negative covers.

I thought that was why everyone had one?
:idk: Pete used a 5 in carnivore but I always thought a 4 for all the type O stuff..
He always played a 4 string as he never tuned lower than C. He is the only reason I have a chorus pedal.
:idk: I could have sworn I've seen a vid with a grey jazz plus 5.. I could be wrong
I've never seen a grey jazz plus 5 but I'd buy one. They're fun... super bright.

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:35 pm
by D.o.S.
whoismarykelly wrote:Compression is key to good bass tone below standard tuning.
And the best compression is fuzz.

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:00 pm
by whoismarykelly
D.o.S. wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:Compression is key to good bass tone below standard tuning.
And the best compression is fuzz.
Fuzz is terrible for doing what you want from a compressor with bass. It accentuates treble response when someone playing with a Low B wants even low end response across all strings. The best option is to compress right from the bass and then run a fuzz after that. The resulting sound will be like you are playing the Low B harder than you are and there will be more clarity overall.

Im very much a believer in no rules for guitar tones but when you start working with sub bass frequencies like Low B and below (my bass has a low G) there are a lot of benefits to understanding the specifics of processing, your ultimate goal, and the physics issues that stand in your way.

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:05 pm
by D.o.S.
and fuzz.
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Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:16 pm
by actual
b is for bass

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:00 pm
by Invisible Man
JonnyAngle wrote:
Blackened Soul wrote:and the battle over alternative music begins?
We can all agree that the toadies kick ass
Who?

Re: Bass Players - Explain the Low B to Me

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:19 pm
by JonnyAngle
Invisible Man wrote:
JonnyAngle wrote:
Blackened Soul wrote:and the battle over alternative music begins?
We can all agree that the toadies kick ass
Who?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwD5rQ-_d4[/youtube]

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