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Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:56 pm
by actual
This shit really is a rabbit hole, fuck.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:08 pm
by D.o.S.
Ergo this:
oscillateur wrote:- What you think you will want/need and what you actually will want/need are two different things, so get things slowly and see what you actually use/want to use.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:10 pm
by actual
D.o.S. wrote:Ergo this:
oscillateur wrote:- What you think you will want/need and what you actually will want/need are two different things, so get things slowly and see what you actually use/want to use.
Nono. The stuff I listed in the original system is stuff I've wanted for a long time. The rabbit hole comment is "oh and then I could add this".

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:37 pm
by D.o.S.
That is exactly what that comment is referring to. :)

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:40 pm
by actual
D.o.S. wrote:That is exactly what that comment is referring to. :)
Imo that comment says that you can't plan what you want ahead of time. I know what I want within the limits of my budget. What I'm saying is that there's a bunch of other stuff I also want, but that stuff isn't essential to how I want to start out.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:45 pm
by Warpsmasher
I still want a Polaris, but I think the Dreadbox phaser might be my next module. Look at those LFO outputs, that is just too sweet to resist.
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Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:50 pm
by actual
Warpsmasher wrote:I still want a Polaris, but I think the Dreadbox phaser might be my next module. Look at those LFO outputs, that is just too sweet to resist.
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Yes. Sweet design to boot.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:39 pm
by D.o.S.
actualidiot wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:That is exactly what that comment is referring to. :)
Imo that comment says that you can't plan what you want ahead of time. I know what I want within the limits of my budget. What I'm saying is that there's a bunch of other stuff I also want, but that stuff isn't essential to how I want to start out.
And the implied suggestion is that what you think of as 'essential to how you want to start out' should probably be up for permanent revision as you build up your kit. :)

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:47 pm
by actual
D.o.S. wrote:
actualidiot wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:That is exactly what that comment is referring to. :)
Imo that comment says that you can't plan what you want ahead of time. I know what I want within the limits of my budget. What I'm saying is that there's a bunch of other stuff I also want, but that stuff isn't essential to how I want to start out.
And the implied suggestion is that what you think of as 'essential to how you want to start out' should probably be up for permanent revision as you build up your kit. :)
I get that, but I still disagree. The individual modules might change, but what I want the system to be capable of, I doubt that will change. I might concur, but rn this system just seems too perfect for both my needs and wants.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:36 pm
by oscillateur
The main thing is that a modular is very different from a classic, fixed-architecture synth. You use it in a different way, most of the time. So, planning based on how you want to use it as a one/two voices synth is a good start but once you have the modules you'll find many, many other things to do with them and that's when you'll see the differences between what you have and what you actually would like to have. It's a learning process that you can't bypass, that's why getting things slowly is a good idea. Also, you don't live in the US, where selling/trading things seems to be much easier than in the rest of the world, so getting rid of things you want to change can be a more involved/costly process (I know that first-hand).

For the filters, I once again recommend the Bastl Cinnamon. Very, very fun filter.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:31 pm
by actual
oscillateur wrote:The main thing is that a modular is very different from a classic, fixed-architecture synth. You use it in a different way, most of the time. So, planning based on how you want to use it as a one/two voices synth is a good start but once you have the modules you'll find many, many other things to do with them and that's when you'll see the differences between what you have and what you actually would like to have. It's a learning process that you can't bypass, that's why getting things slowly is a good idea. Also, you don't live in the US, where selling/trading things seems to be much easier than in the rest of the world, so getting rid of things you want to change can be a more involved/costly process (I know that first-hand).

For the filters, I once again recommend the Bastl Cinnamon. Very, very fun filter.
I just don't see the big difference between buying this system, and like a Doepfer basic system? But, like I mentioned, I'll have to buy that modules over 2 or more rounds, so I guess it'll come naturally.

I checked out that Cinnamon filter and some other Bastl modules. Along with the offerings from Erica, I've got some things to consider.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:54 am
by actual
Found this 6U 144HP case from Bastl, it's the same price as the 3u 84HP from Doepfer. Nice.

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Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:37 pm
by codetocontra
actualidiot wrote:I kinda like Alessandro Cortini's philosophy of keeping the brands together.
I respect Allesandro Cortini too, but don't be mislead. He has many entire systems because he can afford it. I bet if he were to start over his system would be mixed and matched. In another way, no one says you should only use just Boss pedals because they were desgined to work together. Instead, we glady mix and match pedal makers and even have effects that overlap but do things differently too. Just some thoughts from another guitar player pondering a future modular setup. The rest of ILf are a bunch of rad dudes who will give you some great advice based on experience. Obviously.

Re: Modular ponderings

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:54 pm
by actual
codetocontra wrote:
actualidiot wrote:I kinda like Alessandro Cortini's philosophy of keeping the brands together.
I respect Allesandro Cortini too, but don't be mislead. He has many entire systems because he can afford it. I bet if he were to start over his system would be mixed and matched. In another way, no one says you should only use just Boss pedals because they were desgined to work together. Instead, we glady mix and match pedal makers and even have effects that overlap but do things differently too. Just some thoughts from another guitar player pondering a future modular setup. The rest of ILf are a bunch of rad dudes who will give you some great advice based on experience. Obviously.
You're right, my board is completely mixed. When I get new gear, I go for what this specific piece of gear can do over brand anyday - however, thinking of a modular as it's own instrument, made by just one or two companies, calms me in a way. That doesn't mean I won't consider modules from other brands, given they do well at what they're supposed to do, or more importantly, that I like what they do. That would be ignorant.
And yes, dudes on here are rad and I appreciate the advice.
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