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Arrived earlier, got it wired up with the cables I have. Ugly, not velcro'd down, and still have to measure what I need to swap out cable-wise versus the improv job I did with what I had.

That said, past the initial learning curve, was damn easy to set up, it does what it promises.

Switches make me very happy, and the LCD is readable from a ways away even with my bad old person vision.

Replicated my old layouts and some stuff I wanted to try out initially, now to program a bunch of variants in as well.

I can say the manual mode is very well thought out.

Only thing that they didn't include (and should have) is some scribble strips to note what's in what loop to put above the footswitches.

Played with it for a couple more hours.

The parallel options are as glorious as I'd hoped they'd be.

Scrambler/Blender or Bee Baa/Blender (and add trem to one of the parallel loops) is a massive, massive thing but still has some definition.

It certainly looks to be a good extension to the pile of stuffs I already own.

The "Two fuzz pedals in parallel loops and with a footswitchable trem in one" is something that I did on a whim - it's almost ducking trem, because the attack of the other parallel loop isn't phased by the trem at all.

Heck this thread, I went from skeptically thinking I wanted one to knowing that I need one. But first I need an amp. It's crazy cool that this can change amp channels and stuff within presets which is getting me more excited

I want one of these so bad... But I'm not really gigging or anything, so it would be a huge waste of money.
But then I look at my gear...fuck.

I'm not gigging and don't use the footswitches except to *touch* them, given my cripple status.

Even still...worth every damn penny.

I got one for Christmas and am just starting to slow dow from the holidays enough where I can finally sit down with it and wire it all up in my rig.
Your musings make me happy!

One thing I can advise: program your staple "normal" order and settings (buffer etc) in somewhere deep, write it to bank 99 or something you'll never get to.

Copy that to everywhere else before you make a new patch, and you've got the groundwork done that will save a lot of hell.

rfurtkamp wrote:One thing I can advise: program your staple "normal" order and settings (buffer etc) in somewhere deep, write it to bank 99 or something you'll never get to.

Copy that to everywhere else before you make a new patch, and you've got the groundwork done that will save a lot of hell.

this is true i did that with input and buffers as a global setting!

going to have to try my cicada from fuzzrocious in parallel with my heliotropic fuzz to see what happens now aswell! to big fuzzes and the cicada adding a bit of trem

Andy

Well, I broke and bought one. Just been thinking and cant seem to find info, what does the ES-8 do about phasing issues on parallel chains?

peaches wrote:Well, I broke and bought one. Just been thinking and cant seem to find info, what does the ES-8 do about phasing issues on parallel chains?

see now im not sure there i dnt actually think you ca flip the phase on a parallel loop, however im yet to find the be a phasing issue when doing it tho, i have heard of some pedals with lets just say not to great buffers having a problem when in parallel with tb pedals (henning pauly had this issue in one of his demos on parallel loops)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W97Yl_Oh-7Q

ive got a parallel loop in this video and theres no phasing going on.

Andy

Haven't seen any phasing issues thusfar, but I only have one pedal with its own buffer in the thing.

And every parallel loop I've done is bufferless pedals.

Is this just a complicated and seriously expensive bypass looper?? What's the difference between this and let's say the Decibel 11 Switch (which I saw at NAMM a few years back it was cool).

They take up too much fucking room!!!

Complicated, yes, but that's both why it's expensive and why it's something I grabbed in a heartbeat.

Difference between it and the other MIDI switchers out there is that the loops are *moveable* inside the unit on a per-patch basis.

So there's no set order.

Generic, boring ol' switcher had no interest for me, but a patchbay that could rewire itself on demand..hell yes.

jwar wrote:Is this just a complicated and seriously expensive bypass looper?? What's the difference between this and let's say the Decibel 11 Switch (which I saw at NAMM a few years back it was cool).

They take up too much fucking room!!!

Its a midi controller also and allows you to switch the order of your pedals, control amp channels, and a bunch of other small features. The 8 is a bit too expensive and big but a use ES-5 peaks my interest. It makes changing stuff around a lot quicker and makes a small board a lot more interesting. I like the idea but at the same time if its too complicated to use then it might suck really hard.

Although for a gigging musician it could be perfect.