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Robot wash sounds great, but the delay has a tendency to dissolve quickly into the reverb. Imo, it's more an extended reverb than a proper delay. The karman line might be closer to what you're looking for...

OddKnowledge wrote:Meet Maude could be awesome for you. Also check out the Hungry Robot Wash
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Yeah -- after the term washy was mentioned I thought about this one.

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odontophobia wrote:Tonal Recall may be too feature laden? I don't know. It's awesome in all the right ways but simultaneously sort of overwhelming looking.

Unrelated. CME is a cool shop. Can imagine that it has potential to be NEXT LEVEL DOUCHE but it looks fucking cool in there and there is gear galore. At a minimum you can probably go test out a bunch of shit that we all love/talk about here.

Oh.

You could try the Ibanez Echo Shifter -- that pseudo Moog.

I'm drawing a blank on other analog delays with mod right now. I was thinking about EQD Disaster Transport but that's digital emulating analog. It does sound great though.

Hrm.

80tape In Limbo II -- shit gets lots of love.

walrus audio bellwether could be worth taking a look at as well. modulation is on a toggle though.

effects database was helpful - may be worth poking your head around there.

Ill look at that database and hope it doesn't overwhelm me, I used to have an echo shifter years ago but that thing broke so fast. I sent it back to them and got a refund. Never wanted to deal with that again. Either way I will look at the disaster transport, I thought that thing was discountinued tho? I never heard of that 80tape. Ill take a look at it also.

CME is cool because it has a lot of stuff but overtime and especially once they moved to the big space, felt more faceless. Plus if you dont know the guys they can be a bit too rockstar for the customers who aren't doing something special. I know some of the guys personally and they are nice enough but they still talk a lot of shit. I generally go to this place Rock N Roll vintage more often. It has a similar amount of cool shit, great synth (synth city as they call it) section, will wheel and deal a bit more liberally, and over just that the guys are still in this stratosphere as far their ego go.

But thats just me tho tho

edit: the limbo sounds way dope and not too expensive

Your CME description makes total sense. It seems like it's on the cusp of being the hip version of Guitar Center. At this stage in time it's cool to go there and look at it and be like, "yo!, shiplap every where this place looks dope check out all the rad gear" but the people are pretty meh.

i walked around the whole place with a buddy of mine. maybe we didn't look cool enough or were too metal looking or were too dungeons and dragons nerdy looking to be helped. still handy to have around due to the sheer amount of stuff you can at least demo there -- if it's not too far from your place.

O Drones wrote:I always mean to check out Maude, but I think I was put off cos I read a few people saying either you just couldn't hear it live cos it was too murky or the mod was too extreme and making shit sound out of tune.

Nah I used it as my only delay in a 7 piece neo-soul/psychedelic band for a while and it was fucking sweet. I could hear it, the other guitarist on the other side of the stage can hear it, audiences could hear it etc etc. No stress.
The Vibrato has three levels. Off - On a bit - Heaps. I keep it on "On a bit" and its very very nice, mix at like 1/3 to 1/2 and your golden.

The wash seems cool but it seems like just an ambient reverb honestly, I already have an RV-2 and it's probably the only verb I will ever need. The Karman line seems really cool, although not a lot of delay time it seems, kinda wish it didn't have the joystick as I would never use it on guitar. It would be cool if I was using it exclusively with my synths though, the meet maude, I would have to try it out to see if it's too dark. I sort of had that issue with the Moog sometimes but I was able to change the amount of filter it had back in the day.

The Limbo II is still winning me over. Im gonna try all these pedals and see how I feel about it. Hopefully one of the shops carry this karman line.

Regarding the whole "looking too D&D" you probably are right because I've literally had conversations with the guys there (back when I had an actual band that played round), and they would talk shit about people who looked to metal etc and jokingly would say they should go back to GC or the suburbs, or some sort of ibanez joke. It always felt awkward when they did. Although I also understand some of it because Im sure they get a lot of shit customers too creating a bad stereotype.

It is super nice to test things out, like I got to try an EGC before buying one, learned I didn't like old Mosrite's as much as I dug there shape, and stopped myself from a bunch of bad internet purchases. I live like a 30 minute bike ride away and on the south side there are no substantial guitarshops, and the one that was there, the owner recently passed away in a really sad turn events.

When you try out maude, remember that the tone and feedback controls are interactive. The brighter the delay sound, the less feedback you need. If the delay issuper bright it might look weird to have the FB set so low but it's totally just a visual thing. and it's how the pedal is.

sergiomunoz74 wrote:The wash seems cool but it seems like just an ambient reverb honestly, I already have an RV-2 and it's probably the only verb I will ever need. The Karman line seems really cool, although not a lot of delay time it seems, kinda wish it didn't have the joystick as I would never use it on guitar. It would be cool if I was using it exclusively with my synths though, the meet maude, I would have to try it out to see if it's too dark. I sort of had that issue with the Moog sometimes but I was able to change the amount of filter it had back in the day.

The Limbo II is still winning me over. Im gonna try all these pedals and see how I feel about it. Hopefully one of the shops carry this karman line.

Regarding the whole "looking too D&D" you probably are right because I've literally had conversations with the guys there (back when I had an actual band that played round), and they would talk shit about people who looked to metal etc and jokingly would say they should go back to GC or the suburbs, or some sort of ibanez joke. It always felt awkward when they did. Although I also understand some of it because Im sure they get a lot of shit customers too creating a bad stereotype.

It is super nice to test things out, like I got to try an EGC before buying one, learned I didn't like old Mosrite's as much as I dug there shape, and stopped myself from a bunch of bad internet purchases. I live like a 30 minute bike ride away and on the south side there are no substantial guitarshops, and the one that was there, the owner recently passed away in a really sad turn events.

Yeah -- I was in CME right after the Decibel Tour 2015 -- Vallenfyre, Converge, Pallbearer & At the Gates. I had two cups of coffee in me and was likely looking like some bottom barrel scum. Fucked around with a few things but definitely was more wondering in marvel at all the shit versus looking with intent to buy. I feel like sometimes people can tell. Either way, nobody so much as glanced our way.

Anyway - In Limbo II seems like it could be a winner. I think there's an In Limbo III in the works. 80Tape is in the shark tank.

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I love CME but it is indeed overwhelming, and the dudes can be a little much at times. I've found they're pretty usually pretty nice, but I wonder if all those demo vids have gone to their heads. Does PGS Andy have an entourage?

Rock n Roll Vintage rules.

I thought the Tonal Recall was cool, but I sold it because it was a little too noisy for my taste, I wasn't nuts about the tone range, and I frankly wasn't going to dive into all those DIP switches. I think it deserves the love it gets and I think Joel is f'n great, but that one just wasn't for me.

Definitely Maude! AD4096 is wonderful, though I haven't tried the MkII. I've always loved the Maxon AD line—they're easily my faves. I'm kind of a less is more guy when it comes to analog delays; I use modulation fairly rarely, rather preferring models that have the ideal warm/dark/lervly repeats. Oh and yes, another vote for the Ibanez Echo Shifter. And the DE7.

I haven't played one enough to get a final impression, but I was impressed by the DIG. It can get some very cool ambient sounds, plus lots of fine tuning and weird little tweaks you expect from a digital delay. What I haven't decided yet... is it too Strymony? Usually they are, but I dunno... I could imagine this one outside of a megachurch.

Get a Nemesis bro. If it can't do it, then it's not worth doing.

^ I still need to play one of those. Seem bonerific.

What about the Way Huge delays? I have the Supa, which is crazy in the chase mode. If you don't want tap tempo or not subdivision, though, you could have an open box Echo Puss for about $100. That would give you modulated analog delay with a straightforward and scaled-down layout.

jwar wrote:Get a Nemesis bro. If it can't do it, then it's not worth doing.

I do love the Nemesis. Haven't had the time to really explore all of it's depths but I think it's great.

Minifooger?

Tried the minifooger and for some reason I wasn't all the impressed, nemesis seems cool but honestly I'm not super into multi function delay pedals since I always feel like I'm under using it. The tonal recall seemed cool but honestly it would probably go to due to the whole too much shit in one pedal thing. I will definitely try the way huge stuff, I heard its supposed to be a DM-2 with some mod going on. I like that idea.

The ad4096 was gonna be the thing I went into when I sold the Moog 104m but once I saw the MKII preview I bailed. I didn't need so many rockers switches and new things. I honestly just wanted the original design which was simple but amazing sounding. If I could find one for a reasonable price I would probably snatch one but they seem to be only going for more and more.

Also on a side note whenever I show a new pedal to a band mate, I always start it off with some variation of "Hey guy this Andy at pro guitar shop and you've just heard the...". I do believe some of the demo video fame has gotten to their heads but that's my own opinion and probably depends on the person. I just don't go there too much anymore unless its to try pedals which I then later ironically purchase from Reverb in most cases. They get part of my money somewhere along the way I guess.

Also the Dig might be cool if it does stuff my Pitchfactor/PS-2's don't do in the digital delay department. Although I wouldn't mind playing my math rock gaze in a mega church either.

Keep the recommendations coming because this damn good. Although to be honest my trigger finger is basically right over the buy now on the Limbo II but I need to try out all your recommendations tomorrow before I do that

Concur with everyone who says the Maude is great. I love the Disaster Transport for the washy sounds. obligatory DMM rec also

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