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Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:00 pm
by neonblack
Anyone have experience with the Spring mode on the RV-5?
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:14 pm
by actual
I don't know about changing springs, but Vermona makes the Retroverb Lancet, which has a built-in multimode filter as well as an lfo and overdrive. 3 springs and I'm pretty sure it's all analog. I bet it could get pretty dark and vintage sounding with the lowpass filter and a bit of drive. Isn't that the secret to making stuff sound vintage anyway?
http://www.vermona.com/en/products/effe ... rb-lancet/

Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:17 pm
by rfurtkamp
Can buy an actual outboard tank for that price and then some.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:22 pm
by actual
Sure, Doepfer also makes a spring reverb module at about 1/3 of the price of the Retroverb, but now you know it exists. The Retroverb is much more than just a spring reverb though.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:24 pm
by DRodriguez
Yeah, I bought a custom tank reverb with an old Hammond tank for way less, and it has the advantage of being able to replace the tank easily if I wanted.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:28 pm
by actual
Only a suggestion guys. There are always cheaper solutions. I think the Vermona is pretty cool though.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:32 pm
by DRodriguez
Oh, it is absolutely is cool. Vermona makes some quality stuff.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:43 pm
by rfurtkamp
Yea, not a case of cool, more a "I want a Link Wray spring tank" first step is the Fender outboard if that's in the budget.
Anything more is just a little silly as a starter.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:53 pm
by D.o.S.
actualidiot wrote:I bet it could get pretty dark and vintage sounding with the lowpass filter and a bit of drive. Isn't that the secret to making stuff sound vintage anyway?
Most of the time, yeah.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:40 pm
by el badger
rfurtkamp wrote:Closest and cheapest will be full digital.
If you want Link Wray era outboard tank, going to need tubes or something that fakes 'em.
The SS outboard springs just don't have it when I've tried 'em, I ditched my last one for the FRV-1 a couple years back.
But realistically, it's going to be "buy a tank reissue or clone" if you're looking to extreme corksniff.
Oh I know corksniffers! I read patent schematics for the purpose of making clones. I can't afford all the proper values but can afford a $10 stereo from Goodwill and get ballpark values and similar tones than if I was to drop a few hundred on a new pc of gear. Most Ive paid for an amp: I traded a gifted BC Rich KKV Tribal V and a Squier Bass I took from my brother who didn't want to play any more. The most I paid for a pedal $55 and that was an H2O Chorus / Echo at a guitar show. My favorite pedal is a Digitech Grunge distortion from mid 90s that was sold for parts on eBay with free ship for $10. Needless to say I fixed it proper and love it. I am never opposed to solid state. I just want real analog, spring, surfy reverb as opposed to a digital copy of reverb sounds. Tubes? I can never afford tubes. Some of the best axes I've played were Japanese - Lawsuit Era guitars (which I wish they'd bring back - I mean if selling clones of pedals is okay, why not a clone of a Fender, or Gibson). Just my thought on the question, thats all.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:43 pm
by el badger
rfurtkamp wrote:Yea, not a case of cool, more a "I want a Link Wray spring tank" first step is the Fender outboard if that's in the budget.
Anything more is just a little silly as a starter.
Exactly. You're speaking my language

Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:52 pm
by crochambeau
Go get a reverb pan, new ~$20. They typically have RCA inputs. 150 ohm impedance would be optimal on this one.
1/4" to RCA cable, plug it into a headphone amplifier (however you get the guitar there), plug it from headphone amp to pan input.
RCA to 1/4" to plug into amp/more pedals. Could use some recovery amplification at this point, but honestly the output of a tank is not too far removed from standard single coil passive pickups.
If you're a total cheapskate you can pull this in for less than $40 materials cost and a little luck (I've mentally factored in dumpster score a couple times in this post, apologies).
It won't compete in the same class as a proper tube driven outboard, but it might get you part of the way there.
I've been drinking, so I'll pull out before going on a tirade regarding "vintage sound" and various topologies. I want some chance of being able to look at myself in the mirror tomorrow.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:53 pm
by neonblack
RMA Reverb PLZ
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:57 pm
by crochambeau
I do have a tube outboard build on the planning desk. But that won't be cheap (I'm just pushing it through because I need one).
I do plan on *eventually* taking a run at the digital emulator module, but that will be a hot mess I guarantee.
Re: Reverb Tanks and Springs . . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:58 pm
by neonblack
I want some real springs in my life.