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Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:12 am
by odontophobia
I use the Afterneath, Bit Quest and Cadavernous V1. Also have a Ghost Echo that the dude playing bass in my band uses. All are rock solid.

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:26 am
by weebles
Over the past year, or so I've had a Bitquest, Meteore, Neunaber Slate with an exp (making your presets footswitchable, unlike he neunaber immerse), RV-3, Ghost Echo, and a cheap Hall of Fame.

My favorite was the RV-3 for sound, but it can't do full wet (and I actually got rid of it because of a volume drop when engaged).

All of those verbs are great, but I liked the rv3 because it sounded the least sterile.

I've got the neunaber slate and exp for sale/trade in BST if you're looking to pick up something by Neunaber.

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:00 pm
by echorec
D.o.S. wrote:Oooooh, care to go into more details about the Epsi? Seems unnecessary for me (only six seconds is a little limiting) but it could be cool for people who make sounds live.
I think mine came with about 115 impulse responses (IR files). You can source bonus sounds by inserting an SD card (downloaded from the Web or from your own personal IRs). There are thousands of free WAV files out there (Samplicity, EchoThief, OpenAir, Voxengo).

http://www.logidy.com/files/EPSi_Manual.pdf

Pages 8 & 10 show the parameters you can adjust (frequencies, decay time, wet/dry blend), pages 15-16 show all the stock banks, which are organized by type (11 plates, 24 halls, 27 rooms, 16 spaces, 12 springs, 24 FX, et cetera)

You get banks like gymnasium, leaky hall, glass church, forest, factory, warehouse, EMT dark (most famous plate), et cetera.

Pros: amazing sounds for the price. (I don't bother with the VST/plug-in world, but there's that as well.) #2 there are many Web resources for getting free IRs---famous cathedrals, metro stations, or artificial environments and otherworldly settings. There's some really over-the-top and exotic FX IRs (you just need to edit them down to a 6-sec IR for triggering them). You can record drum hits and all kinds of sounds, then use your guitar or keyboard to trigger them. It's a fairly straightforward pedal for accessing and customizing individual banks, though, if you never get into external sourcing.

Cons: you'll have to memorize your favorite banks by their numbers or create a bank list. You're not going to get hot keys or a #1-5 preset menu. Of course you could organize an external card in your own sequence and then load it. Then you could put your preferred banks together, instead of rolling between bank 37 and bank 177 between songs (which only takes a couple seconds). Tweakability is somewhat limited. You're not going to be able to control things like pre-delay or diffusion. That is all defined when the original IR is created. You select your bank and then you select your wet/dry blend and decay time. Then you can adjust your hi/lo frequency cutoff. That's basically the nature of IRs. With many digital effects, an engineer programs an algorithm to mimic a pre-existing effect. With something like an Epsi, you're getting a sampled archive, which mirrors the physics of the original sound. You're essentially triggering an automated sample, which is why you can't adjust as many advanced parameters. (I hope I'm doing a good job of explaining this. There is overlap between common digital architecture and the convolution process. You're still dealing with algorithms and sampling rates.)

Additional reading on convolution reverb/ IRs for anyone interested:

[Technically, an Impulse Response, or IR for short, refers to a system's output when presented with a very short input signal called an impulse. Basically, you can send any device or chain of devices a specially crafted audio signal and the system will spit out a digital picture of its linear characteristics.]

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/T ... _Responses

download links for anyone interested in hearing various free packs (drones, halls, caverns, percussive sounds).

http://www.resoundsound.com/4-impulse-r ... erb-packs/

https://www.propellerheads.se/blog/free ... -responses

http://www.intelligentmachinery.net/?s=impulse

>>>

http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/ ... ght-reverb

http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/acting-impulse

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/yamaha/srev1-g13203/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution_reverb

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:04 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
So there is a way to get a mausoleum in a pedal!

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:08 pm
by echorec
D.o.S. wrote:Oooooh, care to go into more details about the Epsi? Seems unnecessary for me (only six seconds is a little limiting) but it could be cool for people who make sounds live.
At about 30:51, he introduces the water bank (which is tame compared to the IRs out there). If you go 0% dry, you're basically turning the Epsi into an instrument, instead of a reverb. So six seconds isn't that short, if you think of all the instruments that don't give you >6 secs of sustain.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z73AyhNeig[/youtube]

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:29 pm
by Eivind August
I'm not really into reverbs, but that sounds sick! Thanks for the explanation, Reverb-guy!

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:38 am
by fcknoise
monkeydancer wrote:So there is a way to get a mausoleum in a pedal!
Im pretty sure I mentioned a reverb that was based on IRs! Might've been incoherent because drunkness. Or it most likely was!

Anyways, the T2 is what my band mates use and it's actually really pleasant. Haven't tried tone print stuff but for people who like to tweak stuff I guess that's cool too.

I'm also interested in a real spring reverb, and the recovery fx endless summer mk2 is a contender there. Or the danelectro Spring king, and that one leaves money over to get a second, more ambient reverb :)

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:02 am
by D.o.S.
echorec wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Oooooh, care to go into more details about the Epsi? Seems unnecessary for me (only six seconds is a little limiting) but it could be cool for people who make sounds live.
At about 30:51, he introduces the water bank (which is tame compared to the IRs out there). If you go 0% dry, you're basically turning the Epsi into an instrument, instead of a reverb. So six seconds isn't that short, if you think of all the instruments that don't give you >6 secs of sustain.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z73AyhNeig[/youtube]

It's short when you're used to ableton suite's surprisingly good convolution verb and/or Altiverb :) was looking for more on the pedal and less on the process but I'm sure it's helpful to folks who don't already have convolution setups.

I think I sent UC a link to some mausoleum impulses the last time we talked about convolution. But yeah, impulses of that spot definitely exist .

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:06 am
by UglyCasanova
If someone can get me the Vigeland mausoleum in a pedal, I'm there.

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:40 am
by D.o.S.
Well that's the problem with the 6 second cap :p

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:57 am
by xrleroyx
The only pedal I've ever bought new is a Caroline meteore. Excellent.

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:31 pm
by rustywire
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIucBESqhyY[/youtube]

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:07 pm
by ProCarsteNation
vidret wrote:oh wow. nimbus SE does look good

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:28 pm
by ProCarsteNation
echorec wrote:The Logidy Epsi ($199)
That price! Seems like steal...:!!!:

Re: I'm about to go reverb crazy

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:50 am
by spacelordmother
ProCarsteNation wrote:
echorec wrote:The Logidy Epsi ($199)
That price! Seems like steal...:!!!:
D.o.S. wrote:6 second cap :p