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These threads always remind me how bad I want a Sonic Alienator.

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rfurtkamp wrote:NIN staple was the ART SGE/SGX - a factory patch, long before the album, "Downward Spiral" is all over that era's stuff.

As well as the nasty digital distortion.

this motherfucker right here, always trying to get me to drain my bank account.

So what's the difference between the SGE and SGX?

rustywire wrote:^3rded.
Also I've been a broken record lately, but Meatbox. I'm getting a Meatbox reissue end of this month, yup.

yeah this has been on my radar
also the depth charge and the decomposer
so many pedals
maaaan

kaeth wrote:The problem is that industrial was more of a movement, and never really had a cohesive sound. Throbbing Gristle didn't sound like Neubauten didn't sound like Coil didn't sound like Skinny Puppy. Every band had different set-ups and different techniques. I think the common theme was that they used whatever was cheap, or built obscure circuits themselves, and learned how to exploit their limited functionality through bending, creative patching, feedback loops, etc. Figure out how to throttle whatever demon squeals you can from whatever gear is cheapest at the pawn shop. That's the industrial ethos right there.

Which instrument(s) do you plan on running into the pedals?

A feedback loop, a power-starve, and a ring-mod are all cheap to buy, and even cheaper and easy to build. A lot of synthesizers can double as effects processors. If you have one, run other things through the input. Get a cheap amp and fuck the cone up with a screwdriver. In general, use things in ways they were not intended to be used.

INDEED
just getting back into things again
D.I.Y. is always king
just so much new shit out there

Did we ever find out what instrument these pedals are for? At this point the most industrial i actively get is industrial techno, and i find it really depends on instrument, but dirts and reverbs tend to be really important to me. Oh, and good filters. Record everything to tape, play it back at the wrong speeds, sample it, play the samples at the wrong speeds. Sample Rate Reduction (often incorrectly called bitcrushing) can sound really good, but often needs very little to have a very intense effect on the sound. I just like samplers in general. They're expensive, but make life so much easier/better. I have a Bass Station II, i like to put things through its filter. Or just make sounds on it. The Osc FM + Distortion goes a long way. There are so many synths out there that i want, but i will probably next get a DSI Evolver Desktop bc of its internal effects. You can hunt around for a used MI Shruthi with whatever filter board you want (but really look for the digital fx board) and run other sounds through it. Record an entire track and then run any mono channels through any synth's filter. If you're doing home studio shit, you have a lot of leeway with multiple takes and whatnot.

Some of the sickest industrial tones I've ever gotten were out of a roland SP-303 routed into a true bypass/feedback loop.

More practically, If we are talking guitar, there are a couple Holowon/the Syle UMIOM Distortions on Reverb for under a $100. Lots of gain, gate, eq toggles, and a wide filter sweep. (there are definitely infinite options for a dirt box, this is just one I personally go to when I think industrial.) That and like a Boss PS-2 or some digital sounding modulation/slapback/pitchshifting would be a quick industrial inspired set up.

But like Kaeth said, buy cheap shit and make it sound ugly. I've had tons of fun with a boss metalzone into a GE-7 equalizer.

Edit: Just remembered this website that had reviews on tons of cheap pedals as well as samplers/drum machines by users mostly using them to fuck up signals and make noise: http://www.gearbug.com/ Very good resource. A+ Highly recommend for what you are looking for.

mostly geetars, downtuned in odd tunings
probably keuboards when I get them
I have an organ and some other odd devices at the moment
thanks again for the juicy ideas

Whenever I play NIN-esque industrial I usually use feedback loopers, bit crushers, filters and kinda shitty distortions.
I know that Trent Reznor had some custom DBA filters (there was an Anderton Super Tone Control and an Evil Filter IIRC) and Devi Ever stuff (though, that was all post-2000).
I got the best shitty/industrial guitar sounds using an Ibanez LF7 > Big Muff > SS/BS Buzzz w/ octave on > DBA Evil Filter

just got a geiger counter used, full version, non-civilian. i think i love it. barely scratched the surface, but it does all of the above. brutal distortion, gated blasts, ringmod, bitcrushing, etc. even more normal sounding shit in the 20's range on the wavetables. the high gain opamp preamp seems great by itself. insanely deep, super versatile tool. not the easiest to use....but that being said i pulled up wavetable c6 "lofi power guitar" setting from the manual, instant NIN broken ep era heavy, but still sounding real good with chords. instantly worth the purchase for me. also cured my GAS for a lastgasp gomorrah. if you want it all in one box without having to bring it into the DAW for all the snythy octavey bitcrushy goodness, you want the geiger counter. apologies for fanboy post, but this shit is really hitting the spot.

Electro Faustus Guitar Disruptor. So gain-y. So gate-y. So freq-able.

jrmy wrote:Electro Faustus Guitar Disruptor. So gain-y. So gate-y. So freq-able.

I think that thing sounds incredible. Eivind's demo made me GAS for one hard.

guillotine420 wrote:just got a geiger counter used, full version, non-civilian. i think i love it. barely scratched the surface, but it does all of the above. brutal distortion, gated blasts, ringmod, bitcrushing, etc. even more normal sounding shit in the 20's range on the wavetables. the high gain opamp preamp seems great by itself. insanely deep, super versatile tool. not the easiest to use....but that being said i pulled up wavetable c6 "lofi power guitar" setting from the manual, instant NIN broken ep era heavy, but still sounding real good with chords. instantly worth the purchase for me. also cured my GAS for a lastgasp gomorrah. if you want it all in one box without having to bring it into the DAW for all the snythy octavey bitcrushy goodness, you want the geiger counter. apologies for fanboy post, but this shit is really hitting the spot.

Yeah I want one one
The bitmap looks cool too
I have a ring thing and want to trade hopefully