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lordgalvar wrote:Line6.

no.

Teej212 wrote:

lordgalvar wrote:Line6.

fuzz, affordable....end thread now please

more like fizz, amirite...?

no, not at all what I'm looking for.

Also the OR120 doesn't have any built in fuzz dude. It's just a non MV amp.

Which might be what you're looking for? Post is unclear based on examples -- the Model T doesn't have any 'built in' fuzz either. Neither does the Beta Lead as far as I know.

So you want amps that don't sound like shit when they're cranked?

D.o.S. wrote:Also the OR120 doesn't have any built in fuzz dude. It's just a non MV amp.

the OR120 has a very distinct distortion, even though it's all tube based, it's really more of a fuzz sound than what you would normally expect from a tube amp.
it's actually the first amp that sounded by itself the way I was always wanted an amp to sound.

Tell me about it -- I own one.

Line 6 makes such terrible amps, I really don't know how you guys can like them. The effects sound atrocious to me. I have a guitar amp of theirs in my basement and refuse to use it for anything. Sound fucking awful.

I don't know of any amps that specifically have fuzz, like actual fuzz. Breakup and distortion? Sure. A fuzz would be great, but only on a footswitch. That leads to the question of why though? If you are going to use a footswitch (which is the only reason I could see it making any kind of sense), why not just use a fuzz box?

Never said I liked line6.

I never said you did either. Others do though and they suck. lol

Haha, yea, just making sure. They were pretty dang muddy and sterile live if I remember correctly. They were ok practice amps I guess.

I seem to remember a Gibson or some weird solid state with a fuzz (like a really lesser known brand...cmi? I don't remember...wasn't standel.). I know one Gibson had a built in compressor in the 1960s.

Just looked..think it was CMI with Crooks from Standel/sonic maximizer fame designing (yay! Southern California) and they sometimes included a version of a maestro fuzz in the solid state preamp (they were tube power amps). It was called wave form or something.

There might be a rosac amp out there too...seems like something rosac would do. Osbornes had a clean/clip blend (they were rosac amps and were named after Mary Osborne http://www.vintageguitar.com/8559/mary-osborne/ )

Edit:correcting autocorrect.

Didn't Garnet build a fuzzy front end into some of their amps? My mind keeps pinging me with Hohner and Aims as well, but I drank quite a lot last night and quite simply cannot be taken seriously right now.

Haha, yea, I think Garnet was one I was thinking about (stinger)...which was also the name of that Osborne amp http://www.lynx.bc.ca/~jc/garnetAmps.html

The garnet Herzog too.

The Acoustic 270 has a built in fuzz that sounds like total shit if that's what you're looking for.

D.o.S. wrote:Tell me about it -- I own one.

lovely!
I will have to acquire one at some point.

crochambeau wrote:Didn't Garnet build a fuzzy front end into some of their amps?

nice, thanks for the info!

I'm fully prepared for a shitstorm, but the Line 6 Bogner tube amps were criminally underrated. I usually play through the clean channel, which is plenty warm and goes well with pedals, but back when my only pedal was a BOSS phase shifter, I LOVED the fuzz setting on that amp. It's a real wooly muff sound, and the amps can be loud as hell.