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Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:40 pm
by weebles
rustywire wrote:BitQuest.

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:04 am
by rustywire
rfurtkamp wrote:We're at a point where well-done digital and analog are functionally indistinguishable.

Other than very, very specific things, the Boss Space Echo does everything my actual one does.

And does some stuff better, and does so with no hassle or maintenance.
Yep, the gap has def narrowed but there's still behavior unique to analog & digital circuitry the other struggles to duplicate or recreate. Inductor/transformer core saturation, optical compression, bit-crushing, jitter, time-stretching...you know. Fun stuff. Spice of life stuff.

I think the digital revolution is most about access and convenience, consistency. Now you can have an entire electronic studio in your pocket. Compare that to the digital of 20 years ago. Mind-blowing :eek: :whoa:

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:10 am
by rustywire
HighDeaf1080p wrote:Don't you remember the 90's? When we were paying $500 for a vintage mutron III or $300 for a vintage electric mistress. Then Lovetone came along and saved us. We started paying $600 for brand new pedals cuz they were all Analog.
Berenstein 90s?

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:14 am
by rfurtkamp
The only stuff the tape Space Echo does that the digital doesn't is stuff that the original was never intended to - when you set the erase head a bit low, and let it build with a slow sound on sound in the background, etc.

The big thing I hate to say it sliding me more firmly in the digital camp is I've never lost a session to having to clean the heads, swap tape, etc.

Even if the whole unit fries, I import my backed up patches and go!

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:58 am
by Derelict78
I have not plugged in a pedal for at least a month.
All I use anymore is my iPad.

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:06 am
by D.o.S.
He's come full circle.

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:17 am
by Jero
Dang I need to use my ipad for music more...at all.
Do I just need the irig thing?

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:21 am
by Chankgeez
The only digital effects I've really loved playing with were the Rainbow Machine and the Xero Deluxe. Not saying there aren't more out there that're worthy, I just haven't played 'em yet.

I guess it all depends on what you're trying to do and how you want your music to sound though.

rustywire wrote:
rfurtkamp wrote:We're at a point where well-done digital and analog are functionally indistinguishable.

Other than very, very specific things, the Boss Space Echo does everything my actual one does.

And does some stuff better, and does so with no hassle or maintenance.
Yep, the gap has def narrowed but there's still behavior unique to analog & digital circuitry the other struggles to duplicate or recreate. Inductor/transformer core saturation, optical compression, bit-crushing, jitter, time-stretching...you know. Fun stuff. Spice of life stuff.

I think the digital revolution is most about access and convenience, consistency. Now you can have an entire electronic studio in your pocket. Compare that to the digital of 20 years ago. Mind-blowing :eek: :whoa:
I think pretty much what rustywire said.
rustywire wrote: jitter time
Also, this's the name of our new band.

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:05 am
by cloudscapes
If it sounds great, I'll take it! I've nothing against digital effects. Even digital artifacts can be used as a creative brush, depending on what you're after.

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:06 am
by rustywire
Chankgeez wrote:
rustywire wrote: jitter time
Also, this's the name of our new band.
!!! :joy:
Damn good band name

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:08 am
by rustywire
cloudscapes wrote:If it sounds great, I'll take it! I've nothing against digital effects. Even digital artifacts can be used as a creative brush, depending on what you're after.
[100 emoji intensifies]

<3 digital artifacts from 12bit nonlinear samplers & time-stretching. The s950 in particular :love: :love: :love:

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:48 am
by Jwar
I like digital. I think it's the future still but whatever floats your boat.

I remember buying a Fabtone in the 90's for 60 bucks...who the hell was paying that much for shit back then??? lol

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:49 am
by friendship
In my experience how the sound is arrived at has so little to do with whether or not I'll like it that, while it's fun to learn how my stuff works, it's basically irrelevant to me.

To answer your question I have all kinds of digital shit and analog shit. "Purism" is for bedwetters.

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:51 am
by rfurtkamp
jwar wrote: I remember buying a Fabtone in the 90's for 60 bucks...who the hell was paying that much for shit back then??? lol
Yea, I still have mine. Glorious, mean pile of hell. Paid $39 on sale at GC the week they came out, it bumped the HM2 off my board.

The people buying the overpriced EHX shit were the same ones who janked the Space Echo prices up from $100 a pop to $400+ in Chicago overnight thanks to Billy Fucking Corgan.

Re: The Digital Pedal Revolution...for me

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:33 am
by HighDeaf1080p
Well...I have a more open mind toward any piece of gear these days. Literally anything (digital, analog, acoustic) can become a tool that I'm unable to use to a frustrating degree. Why discriminate?

Back in the day, I had this delusion that I was going to be good someday, and didn't want that one digital pedal to prevent that meteoric rise because it was obscuring the subtle details and nuances of my playing. LOL.

I'm hysterical.