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Re: Analog Delay Recommendations?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:28 pm
by Brettski
Blurillaz wrote:
Brettski wrote:+1 for the carbon copy. Cheap, sounds great, has modulation, oscillates like a mofo, small. Can't go wrong.

I've had problems with those breaking pretty fast. :idk: like, 1-2 days after buying

I've heard that. Mine's held up really well after four shows and about a thousand practices. I think they have the bugs worked out of em by now.

Re: Analog Delay Recommendations?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:57 pm
by Scruffie
Hazelwood... you can buy the E20DL on ebay normally and the mods I suggest are the same as the analog mans mods (but better as he doesn't true bypass or change out the JRC4558)
your on FSB aren't you? check out the thread on it there.

Re: Analog Delay Recommendations?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:40 pm
by hazelwould
I was under the impression AM auction the KOT's on the bay for those absurd prices. neglecting the fact that he had people in line. I'm sure he doesn't still work with these horrible practices, but at 1 point he did. That's shiesty IMO. I'm sure it'll be a great delay, but lord knows he plays the whole "mojo" word (if not invented it), in the boutique industry.

But yea, back on topic. I'd get a Malekko, or if you can work with the lack of features (trimmers) the echo baby looks sweet and sounds sweeter!

morningstaru wrote:If you want small delays, the 616 will slay the carbon copy I'm sure. Same price point w/ more features ftw.

hazelwould wrote:
Dude Malekko FTW. You get a tap tempo, built in modulation, AND tone control. Built in the states, by a good guy! If I was looking for those other features at the same price I'd get the Quicksilver.

AM just slaps his name on mass produced (tweaked) pedals, or pedal designs. Why does he have absurd waiting lists for his other pedals if there is an AMAsia? Juss sayin... Malekko FTW!


I did say the AM will give the 919 a run for it's money, but the AM is offering a slightly different delay for a different crowd.
The ardx20 allows you to have 2 different delay channels which can be switched on the fly. It has an fx loop and expression inputs for both time and feedback.
It apparently will also be modular (external tap tempo and preset add-ons to be released in the future)

While the malekko has tap tempo out of the box, it lacks expression inputs and an effects loop, a deal killer for some. Personally I'll be picking up both.

AM is one of the "original" boutique guys still around, and deserves the wealth of attention he now experiences.
With all respect to Josh (my e600d sounds like a dream), the E300/600''s were just going after the maxon/boss delays.

Only the delays are produced by analogman Asia, because it was Ohbayashi San at the Japanese AM shop who designed them.
(interesting fact, the original analogman AR20DL was made in collaboration with Daphon)
The new delays will indeed be hand soldered in China, as to eliminate any waiting lists.
I realize this is clever wording, probably much like how EHX is "hand made in NYC" even though they outsource part of the process.

A different side of the coin is what malekko is doing with he 919 being made in the USA by skynet. There is no way to make crazy delays like the 919 or ardx20 on the cheap by hand and in the USA.

The only wait lists that exist are for the bi-compressor and the King of Tone, which are made in small quantities.
AM could export the process but he prefers to keep it in house. It's not like he sees any profit from the insane prices the KOTs go for on TGP or ebay.

As I mentioned, I love both builders and will be getting both...but I'm whore. For the rest of you it boils down to what features you want, and more importantly how YOUR ears like them.

tl;dr? I like delays. I love fuzz.

Re: Analog Delay Recommendations?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:14 pm
by Blurillaz
Brettski wrote:
Blurillaz wrote:
Brettski wrote:+1 for the carbon copy. Cheap, sounds great, has modulation, oscillates like a mofo, small. Can't go wrong.

I've had problems with those breaking pretty fast. :idk: like, 1-2 days after buying

I've heard that. Mine's held up really well after four shows and about a thousand practices. I think they have the bugs worked out of em by now.

THere was abad batch i think, older ones work fine.

Re: Analog Delay Recommendations?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:39 pm
by Rory
The Mad Professor, Deep Blue Delay is pretty compact and it sounds great, it is a bit pricey though.

Re: Analog Delay Recommendations?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:50 pm
by royaltrux
I would caution against the Carbon Copy.

If you already own a Disaster Transport, going to the Carbon Copy is going to be a serious downgrade. (Analog vs. Digital isn't everything -- actual sound counts too!)

Re: Analog Delay Recommendations?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:10 pm
by Gunner Recall
If you wait about a month (supposedly) the malekko 616 will be out. Total carbon copy killer.