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Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:11 pm
by TOMKAT_BKLYN
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Apparently Jon Cusack designed the switching system.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:14 pm
by paulandpaul
I don't keep up with the current flavors of the month/pedal gossip, so I'm pleased to say I think that pedal sounds awesome, though rather expensive.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:16 pm
by D.o.S.
The beef a lot of people have with JHS is really hardly current, not that it's here or there.

I would rather have a real Muffuletta, though.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:00 pm
by hbombgraphics
the switching seems pretty cool
I don't love JHS myself but this looks pretty cool but a little overpriced

also pedals with tons of options and no footswitching ability to change the options are basically going to be left on one setting most of the time (my opinion)

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:08 pm
by TOMKAT_BKLYN
hbombgraphics wrote:the switching seems pretty cool
I don't love JHS myself but this looks pretty cool but a little overpriced

also pedals with tons of options and no footswitching ability to change the options are basically going to be left on one setting most of the time (my opinion)
Thats true, I don't really like the fact that for that price you're getting a bunch of smd stuff that is supposed to have the flavors of all those versions. Wheres the mojo?

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:12 pm
by zeravla
Now see THIS is what I've been waiting for. I've been needing a muff for my P&W board and I got all excited about the Muffer but then I was all "shit, I can't have a pedal with naked ladies on it in church". Thank you JHS for being brave enough to release a muff without any sexual or satanic imagery on it. This is definitely the fuzz Jesus would have on his board.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:15 pm
by Chankgeez
I think SMD makes sense for builders with high production levels.

For pedals that're touted as "boutique" (whatever that means), I'd prefer non-SMD designs and builds.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:21 pm
by TOMKAT_BKLYN
Chankgeez wrote:I think SMD makes sense for builders with high production levels.

For pedals that're touted as "boutique" (whatever that means), I'd prefer non-SMD designs and builds.
Me too but with high production levels, can't you bring the price down a bit?

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:26 pm
by Chankgeez
Well, I would hope so, but it seems some builders aren't doing that. I'd definitely wanna pay less than "boutique" prices for a SMD pedal. In fact, unless a SMD pedals really did what no other pedal could (and I absolutely had to have that sound), I probably wouldn't buy it. I might buy it if it were cheap enough and/or I was curious enough.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:31 pm
by adapt
i swear, some of y'all, if i gave you 10 bucks, you'd complain it wasn't 11.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:39 pm
by culturejam
We -- Function f(x) -- actually have been discussing a super-mega-multi-Muff for a while. But now we'll look like coattail riders to JHS ( :facepalm: ) if we put it out.

But we were going to go balls out with a bunch of relays for the circuit switching. :!!!:

If you want something like that in a small box, SMD is about the only way to do it. And while some of the parts are a little bit cheaper than through-hole, the real cost is in the hardware (enclosure, finishing, switches, etc).

I'm certainly not the captain of the JHS pep squad, but I think $229 is reasonable, all things considered. Compare that to a single Muff from Stomp Under Foot at $185. :idk: A six pack of those will cost you ~$1100.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:41 pm
by TOMKAT_BKLYN
culturejam wrote:We -- Function f(x) -- actually have been discussing a super-mega-multi-Muff for a while. But now we'll look like coattail riders to JHS ( :facepalm: ) if we put it out.

But we were going to go balls out with a bunch of relays for the circuit switching. :!!!:

If you want something like that in a small box, SMD is about the only way to do it. And while some of the parts are a little bit cheaper than through-hole, the real cost is in the hardware (enclosure, finishing, switches, etc).

I'm certainly not the captain of the JHS pep squad, but I think $229 is reasonable, all things considered. Compare that to a single Muff from Stomp Under Foot at $185. :idk: A six pack of those will cost you ~$1100.
I'm honesty just jealous of the switching

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:42 pm
by culturejam
TOMKAT_BKLYN wrote:I'm honesty just jealous of the switching
:lol: :thumb:

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:43 pm
by KaosCill8r
hbombgraphics wrote:the switching seems pretty cool
I don't love JHS myself but this looks pretty cool but a little overpriced

also pedals with tons of options and no footswitching ability to change the options are basically going to be left on one setting most of the time (my opinion)
He has to get more money for his pedals so he can kick up to the religious fundamentalists that he is involved with. Buy JHS and you too will get a better seat at the table of the lord. :lol:

Disclaimer: I own one JHS pedal. A Mini Bomb booster that I got it cheap and before I found out about his ripping off other peoples circuits for personal and religious profit.

Re: JHS Muffuletta

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:46 pm
by goroth
SMD - through hole - tagboard - it's horses for courses dudes.

The V3 Cosmichorus barely fits in a 1590BB with SMD. Soldering that by hand would take a day or two and reduce Ryan's output (and pricing) to Toneczar levels. But is the Cosmi not a boutique pedal because it has SMD boards? Is Ryan less of a wizard because he chose to work with smaller sized components?

What are you paying for with a boutique pedal?
The circuit design?
The unique sounds?
The visuals and other tangible aspects of the pedal?
The relationship with the builder?
The after sale care?

Or does one define boutique by how many processes can be done in house and how many hours it takes per pedal? If you take a pedal developed by a large corporation, and then produce a 1:1 clone, but in a basement somewhere and with fancy graphics - is that boutique?

(when I wrote this post I was working it through in my head question for question, but now that it's written out it looks less Socratic and more passive aggressive than I'd like. Please mentally remove any aggression from this post and read it through a haze of friendly inquisitiveness)