Dandolin's Bottomless Gear Question Bar

[gordian knot]

ok so 50 and two hundu bones max...

does it HAVE to be a module? you can find some really super cheese in small KB for from the 70s/80s but they might be too limburger even for the likes of you

[Chankgeez]

OKso, the VOX Snake Charmer sounds like syrupy bwappy unnatural pumpsuckwheeze shit in the nicest possible way, but seems to be hen's-teeth class rare. Can the Black Finger enter into such realms? What the hell is up with the "Black Finger" anyway? Mike Matthews wanted to name a pedal for a Vrusader-borne plague so virulent that it lightning-burned it's way through any population it touched thus eradicating it's candidacy for the Guinness Book of Horrible Malthusian Adjustments and into the Big Booke of Child Bed-Wetting Inducement Tales and Crypto-Epidemiological Oddities?

I asked Ovni Cyrus what the huffin'est/puffin'est compressor was and he said the Snake Charmer was a good huffer/puffer.

Also, he said WHITE FINGER and Fromel Velvet Vice.

[Dandolin]

ok so 50 and two hundu bones max...

does it HAVE to be a module? you can find some really super cheese in small KB for from the 70s/80s but they might be too limburger even for the likes of you

Ha ha - - try me. Really. Spill.




I don't have anything against keys, just trying to keep a little bit of a lid on rig size, but I do love me some stanky cheese.

I asked Ovni Cyrus what the huffin'est/puffin'est compressor was and he said the Snake Charmer was a good huffer/puffer.

Also, he said WHITE FINGER and Fromel Velvet Vice.

Thanks Chank--that's prime intel. Gonna keep the Black Finger on the list with the Snake Charmer/check out dat Fromel....

[Dandolin]

So many stupid, pesky gear questions; I'm gonna put a few in here rather than proliferate frog-mold-spore threadz that spark an amphibian apocalypse.

First--can anyone recommend a decent (compact) (cheep) midi sound module that does a variety of cheezy combo organ sounds? Kind of like a Yamaha Reface YC without the keyb and the flat-crazy pricing? Not as interested in the fat, grindy Hammond tones (although I might occasionally want to use one ironically); the cheeziar the sleeziar the bettar.

how cheap? I think you should hang a sign over the bar if you order a "drink" without any more info, you get a matshot.
If you order "cheap" without any more info you get Ratshack products

Imma not sure if that's what you are going for or not? when you say cheap do you want it sounding like a toy?

Fair enough, I'll cop to unilfstitutional vagueness.... Let's see--the Yamaha Reface is rilly cool, but it's brand new and 5 hundo, so I'm not expecting any screamin' deals soon, and I don't foresee plumping for it. My limit is definitely below $500

This is for a new side band where I'm going to play some keys to mix up the textures some of the time so I'm not looking for a Nord type rig. Nor do I want a full size organ. The Roland rfurtkamp recommended goes for less than $250 pretty regularly it looks like (and less than $200 if you're patient), and it is pretty freaking premium. So in that range--any more and it's going to have to be Nuggets in a box to entice me. Though I understand the organ tones I'm looking for are found in an add-on card, so maybe add in a little more and say $300 max. Seems fair, since I sold my HOG for that amount....

Srsly, thanks for taking even this much time with my question--I really appreciate everybody's input....

[gordian knot]

well depends on the size that you want. There are the pneumatic reed organs like the Organaire,
when you think "hammond" don't just think B series. They made a whole line, many quite cheezy
Baldwin too. there was the fun machine
Lowery had the genie series.

those might be bigger than you want (is this for stage or home?)

ratshack had a few.
There's always casio (the cosmo "cz" series, the was also the...I want to say the HT) gen purpose synths that were not good at organs.

Oh man, I'll have to go back and thing about some of the crappy little keyboards with organ presets. I can't tell ya how many I've seen...it's a tough one b/c they were so chessy that I can't say I remember them fondly like "oh that one" cause bad was bad.

let me see what I can dredge up

[lordgalvar]

Roland RS-09 if you don't mind keys and cv control....bout as cheesy as it gets.

Maybe the rack version of the Poly 800...you could get some organ outta that (for about 280). Korg Wavestation SR for under 200 too...

I'm gonna stick with the FB-01 suggestion though.

[gordian knot]

I know where there is a Roland RS-09 if you don't mind keys and cv control....

oh yeah, there ya go. that's the era I'm trying to lock back into memory. There were quite a few bad little organs out there. So many of them are just forgottn because they were...bad

I'm trying to drag out of memory all the ones with not much more than stop buttons (you'll see them listed with the ft mark of the pipe register a lot of times)
or even just presets

[Dandolin]

well depends on the size that you want. There are the pneumatic reed organs like the Organaire,
when you think "hammond" don't just think B series. They made a whole line, many quite cheezy
Baldwin too. there was the fun machine
Lowery had the genie series.

those might be bigger than you want (is this for stage or home?)

ratshack had a few.
There's always casio (the cosmo "cz" series, the was also the...I want to say the HT) gen purpose synths that were not good at organs.

Oh man, I'll have to go back and thing about some of the crappy little keyboards with organ presets. I can't tell ya how many I've seen...it's a tough one b/c they were so chessy that I can't say I remember them fondly like "oh that one" cause bad was bad.

let me see what I can dredge up

Thanks man--didn't Donald Fagen use a reed organ on the first Steely Dan album? That was a pretty good cheesy sound, and I don't think they were huge?

This is definitely for stage.

Overall, though, to qualify, when I say cheesy sounding, I want 6Ts Farfisa/Vox Continental/Fender Combo/Yamaha Combo type cheese, or something like them.

I've been checking the Casio CZ range, and they bring some good cheese, really, even the 8Ts cheese parts, but they're starting to creep up in price it seems--the rat is out of the cheese bag and the cat is on his tale....

I got an old "furniture organ" for $25 bucks a few years ago and it was mega cool--though trying to be a Hammond--but that thing was too big even for my lil hamlet, let alone stage--it's moldering in the farmhouse. I want a Honey I Shrunk the Organ gun.

If any ILFian in the Delaware Valley or thereabouts sees this and wants it, it's theirs for free if they come get it. In fact, I'm adding it to my b/s/t....

Maybe something like an Alesis NanoSynth?

Thanks spacelordmother, Nano Synth is in play, though out of like 40 organs, only a handful look like 6Ts-style combo soundz....

[lordgalvar]

Siel EK 600 expander too.

Too many good synths out there honesly that you could pick up. Yamaha made a bunch of neat little tabletop units.

[Dandolin]

Thanks again lg--I'll check out that Roland. Definitely liking the Yammy overall for size and price and a lot of sounds I'd like to fuqq up--still trying to see what on there will sound 6Ts....

And here's my thing about those 6Ts combos--their base tones were so unfiltered/uninflected that they make great base tones for fx manipulation, in addition to those times when you want some moldy retro flava....

OK, checked out that RS-09--that is some prime gorgonzola--price checking...seriously Oxygene-ated....

And thanks for all the great suggestions too gordian....

Edit:figured out the 'Dan tone- Yamaha YC-30....

[lordgalvar]

SH-2000 is even cheesier and can be had for cheap if you wait it out.

My RS-09 plays well with effects (as you have probably seen with the small stone phaser)...but I was running the subdecay octasynth on mine and it was a blast. All kinds of glitchy tracking and weirdness.

Yea, with the FB-01 you could probably get it more 60s sounding with some programming chops (and can get an editor/unisyn [is that/motu still around?] working), but the stock DX sounds ain't there. Pretty much just stock organ sounds. I was just thinking of layered sounds for running effects through with the FB-01.

[Uncle Grandfather]

JoMoX T Resonator is the tits for self oscillating knob twiddling. Just insane stereo fun. Really should use a limiter with it cause as mentioned it can get out of control pretty quickly with careless fingers. Plays great with guitar but sometimes eats up other effects, is stellar with synths etc too.

[gordian knot]

And thanks for all the great suggestions too gordian....

I just wish I had more solid info for ya. Even with my time traveling skills , th past can be elusive (apparently, I mainly work with the future )

[Dandolin]

JoMoX T Resonator is the tits for self oscillating knob twiddling. Just insane stereo fun. Really should use a limiter with it cause as mentioned it can get out of control pretty quickly with careless fingers. Plays great with guitar but sometimes eats up other effects, is stellar with synths etc too.

[Dandolin]

And thanks for all the great suggestions too gordian....

I just wish I had more solid info for ya. Even with my time traveling skills , th past can be elusive 9apparently, I mainly work with the future )

I hearya-but you've set me off in some excellent directions to my future through the past....