D*A*M vs Pete Cornish

[rustywire]

Cornish pedals are prohibitively expensive. Have not played one.

Used a Drag'N'Fly for about a month before recouping what I paid for it.
Had been using a lot of germanium FF and HP-1...and between the 2 was too much overlap to justify keeping it. Wound up using 1 or the other instead of the DNF, for whatever it was I wanted the DNF to do.

[David] def knows how to fuzz though. No doubt about it.
Still want to try a Sonic Titan and like every mk 2 type I see

[backwardsvoyager]

I see a lot of EGC guitars, Schumman PLL-type stuff, stained hardwood cabs, Dunwich, Electric and Verellen amps, Model T's, uninhabitable rooms stuffed floor to ceiling with amps and cabinets, unobtainium pedals/outboard stuff posted on this site. "Disposable income", "expensive" etc are all relative, personal and subjective terms.

you're right, and as people who haven't tried Cornish pedals we're gonna be dubious and go off his current prices, but the dude charges almost 500 pounds for an A/B box shouldn't need to say much more than 'fuck that'.
it was never just Gilmour, plenty of cool touring bands used to have full-on Cornish system boards, i'm sure they're extremely reliable.

DAM builds a bunch of boutique fuzzes, Cornish builds boutique unity gain buffers and has a muff clone in one of them. no real comparison to make.

[The_Active_Conundrum]

Pete Cornish could probably fart in a box and sell it as tourgrade to some idiot.

I respect the man for doing what he did when there was such a need. But now there's better options.

[O Drones]

Behringer

[Cisco]

I respect the man for doing what he did when there was such a need. But now there's better options.

Same can be said for makers that knockoff Travis Bean guitars, Telcasters, Jaguars, tube amps, synth-modules, anything really.

[D.o.S.]

I don't give two-squirts about Pink Floyd.

[MEC]

I respect the man for doing what he did when there was such a need. But now there's better options.

Same can be said for makers that knockoff Travis Bean guitars, Telcasters, Jaguars, tube amps, synth-modules, anything really.

This doesn't make sense.

The_Active_Condom is saying that in the 70's the stuff Cornish was doing was respectable,
innovative and filled a void and therefore could command the large asking price at that time.

Now with improved technology and more competition, you can get the same quality as
Cornish for a much lower price.

As far as Telecasters, Jaguars, tube amps & synth-modules go, the current knockoffs of the
same or better quality are most often sold for more than what Fender etc. is charging.

The Travis Bean thing is a little more unique and would be more comparable if Cornish
were dead and someone was making officially licensed product under his name.

[Cisco]

What I meant is that a telecaster or a tube amp, or an aluminum necked guitar is very old tech. Yet there are countless makers charging premiums for building them when there are objectively better, less expensive options out there. The rest is subjective.

[backwardsvoyager]

What I meant is that a telecaster or a tube amp, or an aluminum necked guitar is very old tech. Yet there are countless makers charging premiums for building them when there are objectively better, less expensive options out there. The rest is subjective.

I still don't really get that. What would you define as being objectively better and cheaper tech than tube amps and aluminium guitars? Wooden guitars are even older tech and i can't think of much happening yet in the composite material area for inexpensive decent guitars. And with amps I mean the cutting edge digital stuff like Kemper and Axe FX is all just as expensive as uber boutique tube amps, i prefer solid state amps to tube amps personally but even then there's been very little innovation for guitar/bass in that area since the 70s.
When looking at objective points you can't really just use the word 'better' because that means different things to different people in situations like this.

[Cisco]

But isn't an axe fX a better deal? It would render all my amps, pedals and cabs obsolete. Any amp pedal or cab I want at any time.....and I or anyone else can have it for the price of a single tube amp. Isn't this objectively "better"?

I'm really just playing devil's advocate here.

[D.o.S.]

I know some cats that swear by AxeFX.

[Cisco]

Me too. But I'm not remotely interested. I'll assume most here aren't either.

[D.o.S.]

It's probably tilted more towards "not interested" than 'swear by it', for sure.


I'm still trying to figure out where the 'vs' is coming from, tbh.

[backwardsvoyager]

But isn't an axe fX a better deal? It would render all my amps, pedals and cabs obsolete. Any amp pedal or cab I want at any time.....and I or anyone else can have it for the price of a single tube amp. Isn't this objectively "better"?

I'm really just playing devil's advocate here.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and ask then why you have all your amps, pedals, and cabs, and not just an Axe FX?
Again - you're right, that is a better deal for yourself and most others. I'm interested in the Axe FX for example, and would happily try to transition over to that if i could get one, but for me personally I deliberately use a quite limited variety of amps and pedals that even combined would cost less than an Axe FX and be more intuitive to use without needing to buy additional external control peripherals. So it's not really better for everyone.
'Objectively' it is more portable, has a much higher functionality to cost ratio, wider frequency response, etc. I would argue that 'better' is a far more abstract term than that, if it was well and truly 'better' then there would be no logical reason for most people to not transition to using one and there are still legitimate reasons to avoid doing so on top of people being purists/snobs etc.
What were we talking about again?

I'm still trying to figure out where the 'vs' is coming from, tbh.

[Cisco]

I don't have an axe fX for the same reason most people here don't. Like I said, just playing devil's advocate.

One thing I don't get though is why a community that (for the most part) celebrates the builders of, and is willing to drop major coin on, custom amps, aluminum guitars, synth stuff that costs more than my truck and weird, glitchy tabletop noisemakers would begrudge guys like Cornish, Roger Mayer etc, for charging premium prices for their wares.