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Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:09 pm
by weed_killer
I second the contact/piezo pickup idea. Do you have a looper? What I would do is try recording some ideas with the looper first in the chain and no other effects, then mute the glock signal/unplog it and run the loop through the other pedals - that way you can work on getting the right piezo placement/sound and not worry about unwanted feedback from the piezo running through too much gain.
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:12 pm
by Ugly Nora
Yep I have 2 Pigtronix Infinity loopers and plenty of contact mics.
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:43 pm
by spacelordmother
I tried contact mics when I first got my bells - if you attach it to a bar you get a thud (and nothing else) when struck, and if you attach it to the frame you get nothing because the bars are isolated by the felt or rubber strip.
Pete wrote:I had no idea you could run pedals through a glockenspiel
Actually, I built some surface transducers specifically to be able to run anything through anything. It works awesome!

Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:32 pm
by cheesecats
i have an old, rusty glock. i would think the attack is too harsh and the overtones muddled with a contact transducer. i use two small diaphragm condensers, which handle the attack and the fast transients. then you could feed a mixer or pedal chain or just add effects on the computer.
here's a thread i found:
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showf ... ain=888286
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:37 pm
by D.o.S.
Ugly Nora wrote:D.o.S. wrote:looks like someone finally listened to the new Swans album.
No, I had that on day 1 preorder. I am not looking to use it melodically like Swans either. I'm looking to exploit dat bloom.
May I put up a demo if and when I get one?
Yassss plz.
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:58 pm
by Dandolin
Chankgeez wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhMzoGfjupk[/youtube]
I love that, but for that sound you've got to use handmade pickups wound from wire and magnets ripped from 7Ts Land Rover alternators....
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:30 pm
by Sparkfriction
BoatRich wrote:Sparkfriction wrote:Ugly Nora wrote:Great input, from a real live German too!
I would mainly be using it for layering and soundscape in a studio environment. I don't play out live. I'm like the Beatles in that respect.
thanks
btw. you can get one with an output jack. - friend of mine has one.
Do you have a link..? That sounds so rad and I can't find one anywhere.
I was thinking you could put contact mics on the base possibly and then run it through pedals from there. I'm really tempted to get a cheap one and try that.
I was searching to but can't find it... I will ask this guy as soon as possible. But he is a fresh father and pretty offline now -.-
Edit: I just found the kalimba with PickUps. But I will try to get the infos
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:31 pm
by rustywire
I would use omni directional microphones in a quiet space. Stereo XY cardioid LDCs

Then run it through pedal
via AUX mixer bus.
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:03 pm
by lordgalvar
Dandolin wrote:Chankgeez wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhMzoGfjupk[/youtube]
I love that, but for that sound you've got to use handmade pickups wound from wire and magnets ripped from 7Ts Land Rover alternators....
I loved that album. My friend was obsessed with it and tried to sound like it with his SID station.
I want to make pickups now. To pick your part (not now, soon)!
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:28 pm
by Dandolin
lordgalvar wrote:Dandolin wrote:Chankgeez wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhMzoGfjupk[/youtube]
I love that, but for that sound you've got to use handmade pickups wound from wire and magnets ripped from 7Ts Land Rover alternators....
I loved that album. My friend was obsessed with it and tried to sound like it with his SID station.
I want to make pickups now. To pick your part (not now, soon)!
Yeah part of the reason I'm currently obsessed with the Mutable Inst. Elements is the possibility of generating crusty cruddy bell/tine sounds without having to lug all my lamellophones around to gigs. It's also one of the reasons I love ring mod besides the sheer chaos factor--the ability to add bell/tine like "inharmonic" overtone pitch content to the attack of notes. (What is the word for that--there's some two bit word for when an instrument produces lots of pitch content that is not harmonically related to the fundamental frequency)....
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:59 pm
by Ugly Nora
Ok, I took the plunge. Sonor Tag25 Tenor-Alto Glockenspiel

Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:03 pm
by Chankgeez
crazy cool

Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:09 pm
by popvulture
I got a Ludwig glockenspiel off of Ebay several years ago, wasn't that expensive... maybe 100 bucks? I've recorded with it quite a bit. Ironically enough, the mic I've liked with it most is the Placid Audio Copperphone. I've got a limited amount of mics and just figured hey—I'll run it through everything I've got and see if anything sounds right. I was expecting the Copperphone to sound cool and crusty with the glock, but it actually sounds pretty normal and handles the really piercing nature of the instrument really well. Once you get the thing miked, it's fun as hell to throw on a bunch of effects.
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:53 pm
by Ugly Nora
So, I got my wah-wah tube today.
And I filled a metal bowl with water and improvised a mic stand.
Hooked up some pedals...
And created this. This is what I was talking about earlier how I would like to use a glockenspiel. Layering tones and creating drones.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY7FCmse99E[/youtube]
Re: Glockenspiels/Concert Bells etc
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:01 pm
by Dandolin
Weehaw--that is a dronebomb!
