Re: Learn me good about amp speakers
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:30 pm
No not always, but you can look online for a cab you want, loaded or unloaded. If necessary flip speakers, and load them with what you want reasonably.frigid midget wrote:I put it a bit strong I guess, I do actually agree that speakers or pickups CAN make quite a difference. Though speakers more so than pickups imo. But with the saturated gtr/amp market and the countless available products, it's usually just more economical to replace your amp/instrument with something that's closer to what you want straight from the factory. And as an always undecisive gear slut with the attention span of a 6 year old, I personally have to keep the flip-ability of my stuff in check. We all know that your pricey upgrades will hardly affect your resale price...The Mad Titan wrote:Tristan wrote:Don't want to be a drag but that is a highly illogic step I think.
The Fender Ultimate Chorus is pretty much one of the worst amps ever made in my opinion, I should know because I've been playing one for years and years always wondering why I couldn't get a decent sound out of it, it's got that sorta sound to it that will most likely never ever sound good with fuzz, I'd say get a different amp, sorry dude.I highly disagree with most of this, except the part about getting a better amp. I say add a cab with good speakers first, flip the amp and use that and some other small savings to buy a decent inexpensive tube head, ala Peaverty Classic 30/50 or some shit. Maybe a lucky score on a Ampeg VT40 (fucking amazing amps), or even one of the newer Reverberocket heads.frigid midget wrote:Upgrades like guitar pickups or amp speakers usually means getting just a slight improvement by spending a relatively big chunk of cash. Especially with cheap crappy amps/gtrs, it's just not worth it imo. Don't know if the the Fender Ultimate Chorus is the worst amp ever, but it's definatelly in my top five together with a couple of Marshall Valvestates and maybe a Fender Performer or something.
I'd just sell the amp, and use the money as well as your speaker budget, to fund a nicer amp
Speakers and pickups are the two transducers on either end of your signal chain, and as such have some of the greatest overall impact on tone. Pickups are the voice box of your guitar, and speakers the voice box of your amp.
I have a shit load of different speakers to verify this.
Speakers I'm currently holding:
2x Fane AXA12 alnico
1x Fane Crescendo reissue (prototype for a speaker line that's not going to be released, basically a 300 watt Fane Studio 12L with metal dustcap and beefier voice coil)
1x vintage Fane Medusa 30
2x Celestion G12H(55) Heritage
2x Celestion Mesa OEM V30's
2x EVM12L
1x EV SRO12L alnico (and another one I just bought is at Orange County Speaker getting a re-cone)
I've also had a Weber 123055 a clone of the G12H(55), a WGS ET65, and a couple of WGS Vet 30's, and a Bogner 4x12 loaded with V30's, and a Celestion G12H100.
They've all for the most part had significantly different sounds with the same amp pumped through them. Even the different V30's sounded different. The Mesa's definitely have a warmer smoother tone than the normal V30's, and the 16 ohm models had a different tone then the 8 ohm models. Cab's also have a bit to do with it, and a better cab might help him out too, plus adding speakers will fill things out more and if the amp is stereo increase the spread.
You can get a great cheap tube head, and a used cab and have baller sound if you take the time to hunt. Look for old Traynors, Ampegs, Sound City's, etc... Or look for clones of shit like JTM45's etc... such as Ceriatone or Metro cheap on the used market.
Which is why it makes sense to be on the other end of that, and buy something that's already modded/upgraded, or slightly damaged or whatever
Having said that, the reason why I'm thinking of ignoring my own theory: For the money, there's actually nothing out there I can think of that could replace an AC15 with a speaker/tube upgrade. That's probably not even an exception to the rule. So far for my theory
Also, as far as speaker cabs go: It's not like you could just go to a store and buy a 4x12 cab of your choice, in the right color, size, of the right quality...And also expect it to be loaded with say, two vintage Fanes and a pair of nicely broken in EVM12L's
So bottom line: Finding your dream rig just isn't meant to be 'economical'
Like I said, I think the OP would do well to get a nice used Celestion or WGS loaded cab for a reasonable cost. He could squeeze in a 2x12 for a little more than what he's talking about spending on just two speakers alone. He doesn't need to get a pair of 12L's or any shit.
There are cabs all over ebay/reverb every day loaded with all different kinds of speakers. Still, I try to keep most of my cab buying to CL these days. Hunt for a week or two, look for cabs not moving, and make an offer. He'll find something he can score for $200 that's an upgrade to what he has, unless he lives in the boonies or some shit.
