Pickups for Doom/Stoner?
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Re: Pickups for Doom/Stoner?
You would be very surprised and impressed by the clarity and definition of Lace pups. Really, really impressive.
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Try the Dimarzio 36th Annis.
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maggot wrote:HeavyXIII wrote:Deja vu... This is eerily familiar to my experience with amps and pickups. I have extensive experience with the AOR series, and found the 30 to have slightly less gain than the other models I've played. Overdrives and boosts were helpful in getting the drive I wanted, and your boost compensates as you've noted. All of mine have loved pedals (except delays in the fx loop for some reason) and I've found rolling off guitar volume for cleans hard to balance with pure amp gain specifically; you might want to take that into account, if cleans are important to you at all.
On the pickup side, I used the Tone Zone, and really didn't care for it either. I ended up with Super 2s, which are very clear, although a tiny bit lacking in the low end department. Dimarzio lists them as high output, but they don't seem that way. I've liked PAFs alright, but some I've played were a little muddy. I'm sure there's a PAF that would suit you, maybe something like a Humbucker from Hell or those newer PAF Masters might be good options.
As far as humbucker sized P90s, I didn't care for the only one I've used which was the GFS Mean 90. I think a few others on the forum did like them, so your mileage may vary.
Hope some of this gives you some ideas! Good hunting!
The cool thing about using the boost is that I use the high sensitivity input, but I turn the distortion channel off, because it gets so fizzy otherwise. Then instead of whatever fizzy shit the amp provides, you goose in with a big boost, and it's so much smoother. You can get early Iommi-ish tones pretty easily. I just need a touch more high end to provide a flash of light to some of the notes.
Are you using the combo version? I had a head version, and most that I've seen didn't have a gain boost, just a single channel. The combos are basically like the AORs I have now, gain boosts and all. I always loved the full gain capabilities of the amp, but it squeals like a fucking pig at the volume I need, and boosts and fuzz DOES seem a lot less noisy for me as well. I've actually got the 36th Anniversary PAF set in my LTD at the moment and they're nice pickups, but I do wish they were clearer, especially now that I've tried a couple of other PAFs to compare. Totally nails that "Elephant Riders" tone though, even without a boost. Very woolly with my setup/settings. See if you can find a direct comparison review video of the Masters set with the Anniv. set. I've heard I'm not the only one who found them a little woollier than I expected.
I'd second the Lace suggestion based on current bands (endorsers) and demos, but the prices always held me at bay from actually pursuing a set. I can't imagine you'd get anything less than you pay for though. Heard a LOT of great clips. Was always interested in the Hemi/Nitro Hemi.
**EDIT: Forgot to add, if you go the Dimarzio route and aren't satisfied with your choice, they'll exchange the set you bought for one of equal value over the phone; it's how I ended up with the PAF set after my disappointment with the Tone Zone set I initially purchased. Really great customer service. Not sure of other pickup companies doing this, but it's definitely worth looking into for each option you're considering.
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Re: Pickups for Doom/Stoner?
Yeah, lots of ways to get the doom.
p90 in the neck though, hard to go wrong.
GOATSNAKE TONES.
I've got a set of BKP Mississippi Queens in my SG.
I can confirm this works nicely through an AOR (although mine's a 100 watter with EL34s). I generally have the gains at half way and run a boost. Yesterday I just stuck everything on ten though.
p90 in the neck though, hard to go wrong.
GOATSNAKE TONES.
I've got a set of BKP Mississippi Queens in my SG.
I can confirm this works nicely through an AOR (although mine's a 100 watter with EL34s). I generally have the gains at half way and run a boost. Yesterday I just stuck everything on ten though.
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The PAF Masters are significantly clearer and spikier than 36th Anniversary. There's a comparison demo on Youtube.
I'm probably gonna go for either those or some decent cheapie PAFs. I love P-90s, but I'm trying a humbucker first.
I'm probably gonna go for either those or some decent cheapie PAFs. I love P-90s, but I'm trying a humbucker first.
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lace pickups hands down
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I just got a SD Phat Cat to put on the neck of my iceman, came with D Activators but I took out the neck and placed it in the bridge.
Hopefully the Phat Cat is as crisp as advertised.
Hopefully the Phat Cat is as crisp as advertised.
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Which Lace models are you guys thinking of when you mention them? Aluma-buckers, Deathbuckers, Sensors?
I haven't gotten to try a RailHammer 90 yet, but my local shop likes Reverends, http://www.railhammer.com/Gnarly_90_bridge.html
I haven't gotten to try a RailHammer 90 yet, but my local shop likes Reverends, http://www.railhammer.com/Gnarly_90_bridge.html
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Dirty Heshers for me. Got a really good deal on them on sale at MF a couple months ago. You CAN set them up for coiltapping too
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My guitar came stock with BBPros. Nice sounding pups, now it has a pair BK Aftermaths. Nice sounding as well. Probably gonna go back and or combine one of two, considering it's been awhile since I played the BBs. They seemed a little more forgiving and easier to work with. Each are high output but in a different way. Experimenting may be tedious and expensive, but nice to do, to get the best feel and clarity out of your rig. I think it's fun though. To me, it's sorta like the icing on the cake.
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I special ordered a bridge pickup from Buddha, If I like it, I'll get a neck pickup to match. Otherwise I'll be using a Mean 90. I don't use the neck pickup that much anyway. Specs: Alnico 4 wound to 9.0, 4 conductor. Little o' this, little o' that.
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dub wrote:p90 in the neck though, hard to go wrong.
GOATSNAKE TONES.
Special low-frequency version.
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Putting a GFS Classic 59 in the neck because someone gave me one. I rarely use the neck pickup anyway. If I don't like what I've got after I set it up, I'll just slap some Mean 90s in there. The Railhammer hums look super cool, but I've not seen a demo that made me want to put them in a guitar. The Gnarly 90 is pretty enticing, though.
My distortion sounds are fuzzier than they are crunchy and my standards for pickups are "don't suck", so anything reasonably bright with a semi-tight ass should work fine. I'll report back.
My distortion sounds are fuzzier than they are crunchy and my standards for pickups are "don't suck", so anything reasonably bright with a semi-tight ass should work fine. I'll report back.
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Re: Pickups for Doom/Stoner?
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