What can you tell me about Just Intonation?

[Chankgeez]

And lo, like the Krautrock thread and the dub thread before it, the Just Intonation became third in the holy trinity of threads where D.o.S. and Chank post youtube videos back and forth periodically.

There's nothing wrong with that. I usually enjoy listening to what you're listening to.

[Chankgeez]

http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Galle ... +Intervals

https://www.scribd.com/doc/16022934/13/The-49th-Octave

http://www.kylegann.com/Octave.html

[Chankgeez]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CYnoXH0nCQ[/youtube]

[Chankgeez]

Probably not in Just Intonation, but (maybe) deserves to be here anyway?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBhv-Wg-Kw[/youtube]

[Chankgeez]

Yeah, I think this's in JI:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnHsnK0-rfs[/youtube]

[morange]

Guys, relax, it's just intonation.

[Blackened Soul]

first off
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NlI4No3s0M[/youtube]

...

context..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6yuR8efotI[/youtube]

note the lack or frets, electronic pitch correction or robots enslaving man kind to the beat of miley cyrus...

[Blackened Soul]

NSFW: show

Probably not in Just Intonation, but (maybe) deserves to be here anyway?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBhv-Wg-Kw[/youtube]

Yeah, I think this's in JI:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnHsnK0-rfs[/youtube]

Playing these at the same time is the shiT!

[Chankgeez]

... to the beat of miley cyrus...

Funny you should mention that, I know Miley's drummer.

NSFW: show

Probably not in Just Intonation, but (maybe) deserves to be here anyway?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rBhv-Wg-Kw[/youtube]

Yeah, I think this's in JI:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnHsnK0-rfs[/youtube]

Playing these at the same time is the shiT!

I'll have to try that.

[D.o.S.]

BACK FROM THE DEAD:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2I1zNw2w-c[/youtube]

[ibarakishi]

i am not at all well educated about just intonation, but i know that a lot of northern Thai music uses the 7TET system, which for me is really beautiful. Specifically the instrument called ซึง, or sometimes translated into 'sueng' in english. Most videos on youtube use it in a very commercial way, but my favourite use of it is in really sad local folk songs. Also i like funeral songs played with the แคน instrument, but that has nothing to do with your subject of tuning because that is from the northeast and usually uses traditional western scales and tuning

[$harkToootth]

Thanks for posting Ibarakishi!!! I don't know if I'm watching the wrong videos but I hear a lot of links between American Bluegrass and this instrument! Crazy!!! I love Eastern Tradition instruments because of {what I perceive as) dissonance. 'Wow that sounds dissonant!" when in reality, it's that culture's version of a folk song

[Chankgeez]

Like this?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2RuVocbq-I[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2RuVocbq-I

Because I like that Sublime Frequencies comp.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4oKzSRs3sA[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4oKzSRs3sA

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKnfMboFiF8[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKnfMboFiF8

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UZjhTlGT0o[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UZjhTlGT0o

[ibarakishi]

[quote="Chankgeez"]Like this?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2RuVocbq-I[/youtube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2RuVocbq-I

Because I like that Sublime Frequencies comp.


Chankgeez, this is the northeastern music, from a place called ISAN. It uses the แคน and also another instrument a lot that is popular called พิณ. I think you would love the พิณ. here is a link to look at them on ebay ->
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html_odkw=ph ... i&_sacat=0

these instruments are popular only really in that region (or i guess you would say everyone knows them from there, they are famous for being ISAN)

I like the song at around 34 minutes i think on the video you shared here. this is the type of music i am talking about for ISAN music that i like a lot. I like the type that is very heavy with drone and is instrumental, or has two instruments playing counterpoints off each other.

the ซึง is not in ISAN music though. It is northern music. This is one example that i could find quickly. You can really hear the difference in the tuning i think because of the ซึง
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZnUMm59bMg[/youtube]

[ibarakishi]

Thanks for posting Ibarakishi!!! I don't know if I'm watching the wrong videos but I hear a lot of links between American Bluegrass and this instrument! Crazy!!! I love Eastern Tradition instruments because of {what I perceive as) dissonance. 'Wow that sounds dissonant!" when in reality, it's that culture's version of a folk song

no problem haha. I understand what you mean, but i think that is only true in the more commercial or 'country' style of playing over here. Once you get into really local songs and more traditional things, it becomes more and more distant from anything close to Bluegrass. Especially once you listen to actual religious ceremonies using these instruments too. For me, that is kind of the abstract end point of these instruments, which is kind of the opposite for Christianity and how the church used/uses music.

I understand what you mean about dissonant sound too. It is interesting to me, because if you talk to the really old generation here, they think that western pop music sounds like dissonance to them haha. I think for me personally, the 7TET system and 12TET of europe is not strange or dissonant really. But the further up you go in this system, like 24TET or something extreme like that, the closer you approach just natural noise that you would find in nature. Which at that point, i guess why not just use field recordings of nature itself? haha