Re: EHX C9 Organ Machine (Yo dawg, where's the A9?)
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:24 am
I'm hanging out for one with the mellotron voices.
Think the reason is (a) market is smaller, and (b) tracking suffers a little even on hex pickup stuff when you get to thicker strings and lower notes - it will require a LOT more skill and dedication on the part of the operator, and frankly, not sure that it'll do any semblance of poly tracking on bass-register stuff without a dedicated PU.John wrote:I wish they'd come out with a bass one. I know you could just use a pitch shifter etc etc and I've used every variant of octaving etc etc, but this technology applied to really reproducing a bass sound from other sources would be great.
Mello strings and choirs are the best keys sounds ever created, that's why I'm baffled they used the flutesdase wrote:I'm hanging out for one with the mellotron voices.
They used the flute cause it immediately reminds peeps of Strawberry Fields Forever. This secures the Beatles fans.DarkAxel wrote:Mello strings and choirs are the best keys sounds ever created, that's why I'm baffled they used the flutesdase wrote:I'm hanging out for one with the mellotron voices.
There's a world of difference between an organ (any type) and a monophonic analog synth. Well, obviously without even talking about sounds, one of them is monophonic...leaves turn wrote:They're cool but for the price of two of these I could hook up a Minibrute to my board, which I think I'd like more.
...like my toy keyboardsoscillateur wrote:I'd actually be interested in knowing how this thing sounds with something else than guitar as an input.
Jero wrote:...like my toy keyboardsoscillateur wrote:I'd actually be interested in knowing how this thing sounds with something else than guitar as an input.
Yeah, same thing. That and my modular, and drum machinesJero wrote:...like my toy keyboardsoscillateur wrote:I'd actually be interested in knowing how this thing sounds with something else than guitar as an input.
I know this guy that plays in a jam/cover band in the town I used to live in. He is so about trying to make his guitar sound like an organ. He uses a Super Ego and one of those Hughes and Kettner Rotovibes a ton. He is probably shitting his pants about this pedal. I should tell him about it, he didn't seem that into the idea of a POG last time I talked to him about it.sonidero wrote:Wanted: Guitarist to Pretend to be an Organist for Classic Rocks Covers Band...
I was gonna post this the other day... Not sure if it's the Crystal Latticeness of his Kemper or the pedal but something sounds off...
Bet this sounds cool when used improperly as ILFers are wont to do...
moogboy wrote:Re why they did flutes and not other Tron sounds:
Recreating a flute sound with the circuitry/code at the heart of the B9/C9 is a piece of cake. Fundamentally, both of these pedals are the exact same thing with different presets. All you need to do to get a convincing flute sound is set it a certain way (light fundamental, a few even upper harmonics, a decent bit of the key click) and boom, you've gone and recreated the flute preset on every organ from the first Hammond onward up to the ones you can buy in Evola Music today. The R&D for more C9/B9 pedals is literally "sit around playing with creating new presets all day and save the cool ones," but to recreate a Mellotron String/Cello/Choir would require a good deal more work. Recreating the String would start with making a guitar/whatever you put in sound like a violin, and then mangling it with some kinda tape and preamp simulation, and the choir would probably take some variation of formant filtering on a super pure set of harmonics (higher harmonics for the female choir, deeper, richer harmonics for the male choir).
All that said, if anyone is gonna do it, it's gonna be EHX, and they're gonna do it the best.

these use FFT, so there isn't any tracking going on. i'd like to know what FFT size/overlap they're using though, as that could tell you more about whether a bass version would be an easy thing to do. that said, we haven't heard it with bass. it could sound just fine!rfurtkamp wrote:Think the reason is (a) market is smaller, and (b) tracking suffers a little even on hex pickup stuff when you get to thicker strings and lower notes - it will require a LOT more skill and dedication on the part of the operator, and frankly, not sure that it'll do any semblance of poly tracking on bass-register stuff without a dedicated PU.John wrote:I wish they'd come out with a bass one. I know you could just use a pitch shifter etc etc and I've used every variant of octaving etc etc, but this technology applied to really reproducing a bass sound from other sources would be great.