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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:48 am
by goroth
kaeth wrote:These should help with the jack placement issue.
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Solid-Brass ... _1143.html
Yeah, but those things put a shitload of strain on the jacks. And you're stuck placing them where the jacks want you to, not necessarily where you want em.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:19 am
by rustywire
Real estate is expensive. THE RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH.
Sounding good is also (typically) expensive. As far as audio equipment goes, enclosure size is not a primary or secondary factor....and an afterthought at best.

Most of my favorite effects happen to be housed in "big box" enclosures with differing proportions, which potentially make for some interesting abstract geometric patterns when arranged to fit together visually...and audibly. Emphasis on the latter.

Extremely small electronics tend to be extremely difficult for the owner to service and repair.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:24 am
by bigchiefbc
I don't like how unstable they are when on velcro, if I hit it fast or hard, it tends to roll to one side or the other. The only micro pedal I like is the micro polytune, which is fine because you're not sacrificing any knobs or controls, and also because I only click it on between songs so I can do it slower and more carefully,

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:31 am
by zRobertez
I like them fine. I used to have a lot more than I do now. I think they are best when you are only wanting one sound or function out of a pedal. For me, it's like reverb or boost, some modulation.
About them taking up just as much space as others, I have always stacked two vertically to each other with the enclosures horizontal. Depending on the board, you can fit 2-3 mini pedals in 1 boss sized space. And they can squeeze into awkward spaces left from other stupidly sized/shaped boxes.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:00 pm
by terminator
All my pedals are big and spaced as far as the patch cables will allow.
I fuck it all up when the switches are too close.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:05 pm
by whoismarykelly
Tiny pedals are difficult to secure to a pedalboard reliably which is incredibly frustrating. Especially when stepping on the footswitch flips the whole thing off the edge of your board and knocks out the cables mid song.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:19 pm
by Ghost Hip
It is a selling point only if it is an effect I don't need a ton of tweakability and I won't use very often. The only mini pedals I have are tc electronic polytune and I am getting a mini shaker vibrato, because I don't want vibrato and tuner to take up much space on my board. The only other mini pedal I am looking at is the malekko tremolo.

Actually the only reason I am getting a mini shaker vibrato is because I got a killer deal through work, and I get sweet deals on malekko pedals as well.
kaeth wrote:These should help with the jack placement issue.
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Solid-Brass ... _1143.html
Cool, but I've accidentally turned two pedals on at once with 125b enclosures, I can't imagine the mess I'd create with mini pedals connected that close. :lol: Maybe if I didn't sing, play, and step on peds all at once I'd be more nimble.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:05 pm
by futuresailors
Always on mini pedals are just dandy.
Like the chicklet was fuckin boss.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:03 pm
by rustywire
I would rock a Henretta multi unit over the individual boxes. Or a trio of the 2-in-1s with the routing option.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:24 pm
by BassIsBad
It has all pretty much been said. I think that most of us will agree that if the pedal sounds good and works well, the small price tag and lesser space-needs would be pretty good selling points.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:36 pm
by rfurtkamp
It's only going to get so small as it is. If it's bigger than a Boss-type pedal, it has to be for a reason, and the TINY pedals hold almost no interest. They're also not cheap enough to warrant usually as a cost-saving device, and those damn tiny knobs ...are..the devil.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:19 pm
by backwardsvoyager
i don't really like anything smaller than a 125b with top mounted jacks.
or anything bigger.
it's the perfect size for saving space whilst still being able to hit the footswitches easily enough.
same goes for boxes like the vertical fuck/TAFM/buzzz etc when the effect needs two footswitches.
why compromise serviceability and add building time/cost to make something smaller than that when its gonna make it annoying to use on the fly, and why put it in a box bigger than it needs to be, is how i feel.
(the henretta boxes are an exception to this IMO, but i don't like the mooer format that much, although the polytune mini is ok)

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:33 am
by goroth
rustywire wrote:I would rock a Henretta multi unit over the individual boxes. Or a trio of the 2-in-1s with the routing option.
Yep, I got me a two in one :)
At least with the colours and the no-knobs and the symmetry of those 2 inch boxes Kevin has a unique look going. They're also a half inch wider than a 1590A which makes a big difference as to stompability.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:22 am
by Andrew
I was using a Malekko Trem for a long time, which was a pain to find the right place on the pedalboard and actually use. My TC Ditto would be the only mini pedal that I can see actually myself use now, if only because Loopers only really work effectively at very few places on the pedalboard.

Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:30 am
by DarkAxel
I honestly think they are aimed at people who want less intricate pedals for less money. Those "maybe I might try effects" people. They might be an entry level stompboxes or just something you want to try for a different flavour, maybe different modulation you haven't tried and are not sure if you can incorporate into your music?

I REALLY don't see them as an interesting thing to people who already have lots of pedals (contrary to some of you). I think that MOST people who are into pedals and have a few or even a lot have enough commitment and are interested enough to not care for the size :idk: