I LOVE BUFFERS

[Achtane]

ATTN BUFFER FANS: EAT MY FUCK
YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE TRANSPARENCY OFFERED BY MY HONDA SOUND WORKS "SPICE"

[Gone Fission]

but if you rely on the impedance loading of your pickups/cables to get a fuzz to behave (like a fuzz face, or an oscillating fuzz) then you can't have an input buffer, and you just have to deal with stuff behaving differently.

Or just have your buffer after your primitive and oscillating fuzz. (My Zoom Ultrafuzz is actually buffered bypass, and a pretty good buffer, so that's the last of that stuff.)

[coldbrightsunlight]

Let's try to perpetuate some rumors about true bypass.

A little known fact about the standard blue 3PDT switches is that, at moderately high volumes, the spring and the metal actuator contained within the switch can create phase-aligned sympathetic resonances, both sub-harmonic and super-harmonic. While you can't actually hear the dreaded "blue 3PDT resonance"-- a term coined in the early 1980s-- the frequencies do interact with frequencies in the audible range, resulting in unpredictable frequency cancellation.

This can be minimized during the switch manufacturing process by using a specific quantity and type of grease to lubricate the mechanical components of the switch. Unfortunately, near the end of the 1970s, international agreements were put in place that prohibited the use of that lubricant due to its high toxicity. A suitable substitute was found, however it is very heat-sensitive. Simply soldering the switch changes the viscosity of the lubricant, and that all but guarantees that you will experience the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance.

That is why your setup sounds good most of the time, but some days, it just doesn't sound right. Maybe it is dull, maybe it sounds like there is a blanket over the speakers, maybe it just sounds different than you remembered. That, my friends, is the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance. It stifles creativity, and must be avoided at all costs.

If you must use a bypass, buffered bypass is the only way to go. Anyone who uses true bypass is a fool.

If you must use a bypass

This though, this is the real issue. Do you guys... turn pedals off? That ain't right. All on all the time.


#getonmylevel

[rustywire]

One surprise use of The Elements, has been to function as an exceptional sounding buffered volume pedal (w/expression pedal)
So much function in that box...

But I'm generally ambivalent about buffered bypass. Too many buffers = brittle, nasal treble.
Everything in moderation....except fuzz & delay

That said, Boss pedals (most of them) still have the most satisfying footswitch action and "click" when the chassis makes contact...and as much as I admire the aesthetics of an all-Boss board (Clean Channel I'm looking at you!) I have not been a fan of...the effects of...stacking multiple Boss pedals (or Ibanez/Maxon) together.

[Jwar]

Fuck all this talk about buffers. Buffer these nuts. I want my board to sound exactly like my clean tone. Maybe a very slight OD that still sounds like my amp, nothing over the top like a fuzz or anything. Fuck all that. Just so the signal doesn't get all mangled too I need a looper to keep it crisp just in case it's not true bypassed enough. Maybe a Carbon Copy in there too. The perfect delay. Delay for days.

[zRobertez]

I don't even turn my pedals off

Buffers and bitches - don't need em

[Jwar]

I don't even turn my pedals on

Buffers are bitches - don't need em

Fixed

[zRobertez]

I find my tone is actually enhanced if I plug straight into the speakers

[neonblack]

Let's try to perpetuate some rumors about true bypass.

A little known fact about the standard blue 3PDT switches is that, at moderately high volumes, the spring and the metal actuator contained within the switch can create phase-aligned sympathetic resonances, both sub-harmonic and super-harmonic. While you can't actually hear the dreaded "blue 3PDT resonance"-- a term coined in the early 1980s-- the frequencies do interact with frequencies in the audible range, resulting in unpredictable frequency cancellation.

This can be minimized during the switch manufacturing process by using a specific quantity and type of grease to lubricate the mechanical components of the switch. Unfortunately, near the end of the 1970s, international agreements were put in place that prohibited the use of that lubricant due to its high toxicity. A suitable substitute was found, however it is very heat-sensitive. Simply soldering the switch changes the viscosity of the lubricant, and that all but guarantees that you will experience the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance.

That is why your setup sounds good most of the time, but some days, it just doesn't sound right. Maybe it is dull, maybe it sounds like there is a blanket over the speakers, maybe it just sounds different than you remembered. That, my friends, is the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance. It stifles creativity, and must be avoided at all costs.

If you must use a bypass, buffered bypass is the only way to go. Anyone who uses true bypass is a fool.

Seems pretty reasonable. We've all been there.

Also, fellow Georgia-bro! Opposite sides, though.

[Jwar]

I find my tone is actually enhanced if I plug straight into the speakers

Agreed! I often times just play my bass acoustic so I don't lose anything tone wise from my head, which let's face it, just totally distorts the actual sound of the instrument. It's all about the fingers. I finger the shit out of my bass.

[OddKnowledge]

I plug my guitars right into peoples' ears. you've gotta cut out everything and get the most true-bypass possible.

[Jwar]

I plug my guitars right into peoples' ears. you've gotta cut out everything and get the most true-bypass possible.

[PetZounds]

A little known fact about the standard blue 3PDT switches is that, at moderately high volumes, the spring and the metal actuator contained within the switch can create phase-aligned sympathetic resonances, both sub-harmonic and super-harmonic. While you can't actually hear the dreaded "blue 3PDT resonance"-- a term coined in the early 1980s-- the frequencies do interact with frequencies in the audible range, resulting in unpredictable frequency cancellation.

This can be minimized during the switch manufacturing process by using a specific quantity and type of grease to lubricate the mechanical components of the switch. Unfortunately, near the end of the 1970s, international agreements were put in place that prohibited the use of that lubricant due to its high toxicity. A suitable substitute was found, however it is very heat-sensitive. Simply soldering the switch changes the viscosity of the lubricant, and that all but guarantees that you will experience the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance.

That is why your setup sounds good most of the time, but some days, it just doesn't sound right. Maybe it is dull, maybe it sounds like there is a blanket over the speakers, maybe it just sounds different than you remembered. That, my friends, is the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance. It stifles creativity, and must be avoided at all costs.

If you must use a bypass, buffered bypass is the only way to go. Anyone who uses true bypass is a fool.

OMG I knew I could hear the frequencies interacting with frequencies in the audible range, resulting in unpredictable frequency cancellation!
Capacitance and impedance, I know an engineer!

[D.o.S.]

Let's try to perpetuate some rumors about true bypass.

A little known fact about the standard blue 3PDT switches is that, at moderately high volumes, the spring and the metal actuator contained within the switch can create phase-aligned sympathetic resonances, both sub-harmonic and super-harmonic. While you can't actually hear the dreaded "blue 3PDT resonance"-- a term coined in the early 1980s-- the frequencies do interact with frequencies in the audible range, resulting in unpredictable frequency cancellation.

This can be minimized during the switch manufacturing process by using a specific quantity and type of grease to lubricate the mechanical components of the switch. Unfortunately, near the end of the 1970s, international agreements were put in place that prohibited the use of that lubricant due to its high toxicity. A suitable substitute was found, however it is very heat-sensitive. Simply soldering the switch changes the viscosity of the lubricant, and that all but guarantees that you will experience the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance.

That is why your setup sounds good most of the time, but some days, it just doesn't sound right. Maybe it is dull, maybe it sounds like there is a blanket over the speakers, maybe it just sounds different than you remembered. That, my friends, is the dreaded blue 3PDT resonance. It stifles creativity, and must be avoided at all costs.

If you must use a bypass, buffered bypass is the only way to go. Anyone who uses true bypass is a fool.

TAKE. A. BOW.

[KaosCill8r]

ATTN BUFFER FANS: EAT MY FUCK
YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE TRANSPARENCY OFFERED BY MY HONDA SOUND WORKS "SPICE"

What the fuck!!!!!!!!! I'm sure it's super transparent. Does it work like a crystal lattice?