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Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:16 pm
by rfurtkamp
Yea, small, inexpensive, and filter don't fit in the same sentence even without "analog."

Most filter-type stuff is aimed at the engineer market, not so much pedals.

For envelope-type filters I'm partial to the Bassballs or my venerable Boss ME-6B that I've used for about 20 years. Hated, hated, hated the DOD 25s.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:17 pm
by Chankgeez
Maybe I should start a forum called ILoveFilter?

And have a line of pedals called FilterHugger?

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:18 pm
by nevada
I think Skullservant should take the Eric Archer design and do the Dirgefilter :)

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:20 pm
by Chankgeez
I agree.

The Skull Filter.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:21 pm
by nevada
That's the one!

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:23 pm
by jrmy
I thought the Moog mini drive had an expression input so you could manually sweep the tone - would that do the trick?

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:28 pm
by Chankgeez
I wanna Moog MF Drive. It does have a foot sweepable filter. It's a Moog ladder filter, which is, I believe, a low-pass filter. Good call, jrmy.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:32 pm
by nevada
I think the resonance is fixed or stepped on the MF Drive.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:40 pm
by jrmy
All right. Skull Filter it is. Someone better tell Skullservant that he's building one. Oh, and that it'll be small and cheap.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:57 pm
by Chankgeez
Here's what nevada's talkin' about:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axUHAwen-I4[/youtube]

If skully builds a bunch o' these, I'd order one.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:58 pm
by hollowhero
Who knew it'd be so hard to find a tiny analog filter (it's such a simple circuit lol). I thought for sure there'd be some weird filter pedal from Europe or something that I hadn't heard of....
Chankgeez wrote:Here's what nevada's talkin' about:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axUHAwen-I4[/youtube]

If skully builds a bunch o' these, I'd order one.
That sounds awesome. I'd be all over a SkullFilter :love:

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:27 am
by Fuzz_Pi
Ro_S wrote:what's the difference between an envelope filter and an auto wah?
None really.

It seems to me like what builders call auto wahs are generally envelope following band pass filters and envelope filters are usually low pass, Mutron 3 for example has options for both.

I dunno, at the end of the day they're all filters opened by your attack, it seems like it's just marketing terminology.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:40 am
by Genghis Kanye
Put me down for the skullfilter as well.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:04 am
by univalve
Chankgeez wrote:I wanna Moog MF Drive. It does have a foot sweepable filter. It's a Moog ladder filter, which is, I believe, a low-pass filter. Good call, jrmy.
Yeah, Works. No resonance knob though. But i don't Miss One. :idk:

What about a wah After fuzz? Less Space than a Pedal and an expression Pedal...
The cantrell wah Loves a fuzz Face in Front and Sounds Great. I have some Clips if somebody is into it.

Re: small AND cheap analog filter pedal

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:34 am
by goroth
Subdecay Proteus is not cheap but it will do LPF or BPF depending on how you switch it internally. But no expression control. Sorry, pointless post.

At a guess I'd say there aren't more out there because they just don't sound good enough on clean guitars. I think they really need a fuzz (preferably an octave down fuzz) before the filter to get those fat sweeps out of an LPF. BPF sounds good clean and with distortion, and I think for certain uses it's hard to tell the difference between BPF and LPF except that the LPF kinda wimps out on a clean signal at certain points of the sweep whereas a good wah is all throaty and cool for the whole sweep.

That's just me guessing. But I have a LPF on my board and no wah, so that's where I'm at.