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D.o.S. wrote:But you gotta do it standing up after like three proper bong rips.

Three proper bong rips>Joe falling asleep for 12 hours. Every. God. Damn. Time. Never fails.

That's why its a challenge.

Al Cisneros could do it. I'm pretty sure he needs three bong rips just to stand up.

Clean signal and a signal through Tape Delay... An El Cap could do this cause you can assign any knob to an Exp. pedal... Play it clean then slowly shift the delay time up then back down...

dase wrote:Al Cisneros could do it. I'm pretty sure he needs three bong rips just to stand up.

True dat.

sonidero wrote:Clean signal and a signal through Tape Delay... An El Cap could do this cause you can assign any knob to an Exp. pedal... Play it clean then slowly shift the delay time up then back down...

Hmm, now that's an idea.

It's the original Flange yo... Clean copy and slightly slowed copy...

Apologies for the necro, but I'm really after the fuzz tone Wata uses during the solo at 25:05 in OPs vid. I know she has a Triangle Muff clone, a modded DS-1, Shiva and the Wata Fuzz (Bee Baa?) in her board. Would a Triangle muff (plus OR120...) get me close to that?

Yeah that'll prolly do it... Just moar gain and loud amps...

sonidero wrote:Yeah that'll prolly do it... Just moar gain and loud amps...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqm_A_3YsP0[/youtube]

cedarskies wrote:For pulling it off live, using both of your feet to record the same loop on two looping pedals at the same time would probably get you there due to the slight timing imperfections.

This is definitely how I do it. I had an Alter Ego X4 set to Looper mode and played the riff into it. I ran that into a Ditto X2 and recorded the loop from the AEX4, then played it back. Initially they double over and continue through a nice chorus/flange thing for a few runthroughs. By a dozen repeats they're completely out of synch. It sounds 75% the same as the record. You have to loop several bars, otherwise it happens too quickly.

As established earlier in the thread, Wata probably has the Space Echo going, then running it into a looper. I think she's playing more live (just standing there would be pretty boring).

I've never tried to really replicate it but I have noticed that with a delay set long enough to cover the whole thing, play over the delay and over time start playing slightly slower and slower than the repeat. It won't be as dramatic as their version but it's really cool sounding.

Enso wrote:Apologies for the necro, but I'm really after the fuzz tone Wata uses during the solo at 25:05 in OPs vid. I know she has a Triangle Muff clone, a modded DS-1, Shiva and the Wata Fuzz (Bee Baa?) in her board. Would a Triangle muff (plus OR120...) get me close to that?

You don't need a particularly special amp or a triangle muff for that -- it definitely sounds like a Big Muff +Les Paul to me, though.

D.o.S. wrote:

Enso wrote:Apologies for the necro, but I'm really after the fuzz tone Wata uses during the solo at 25:05 in OPs vid. I know she has a Triangle Muff clone, a modded DS-1, Shiva and the Wata Fuzz (Bee Baa?) in her board. Would a Triangle muff (plus OR120...) get me close to that?

You don't need a particularly special amp or a triangle muff for that -- it definitely sounds like a Big Muff +Les Paul to me, though.

Don't obsess over the gear too much... Wata uses a lot of different amps, OR120, OD120, AD30, etc., and a lot of different fuzzes. Triangle Muffs are pretty expensive. Make sure you want one before you buy one just to emulate one sound that one guitarist makes! The Les Paul is the only consistent thing about her sound from song to song.

EDIT: This post is so hypocritical though LOL... my current dream is replicating her entire rig! It's a pipe dream though. Boris formed in 1992... she's had 23 years to amass about $30,000 worth of gear. The crazy thing is they bring it all with them when they tour. Like, when Sleep plays in Europe, they leave all their Matamp stuff in the US and rent a bunch of Orange stuff... Wata takes her Oranges everywhere with her

casecandy wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

Enso wrote:Apologies for the necro, but I'm really after the fuzz tone Wata uses during the solo at 25:05 in OPs vid. I know she has a Triangle Muff clone, a modded DS-1, Shiva and the Wata Fuzz (Bee Baa?) in her board. Would a Triangle muff (plus OR120...) get me close to that?

You don't need a particularly special amp or a triangle muff for that -- it definitely sounds like a Big Muff +Les Paul to me, though.

Don't obsess over the gear too much... Wata uses a lot of different amps, OR120, OD120, AD30, etc., and a lot of different fuzzes. Triangle Muffs are pretty expensive. Make sure you want one before you buy one just to emulate one sound that one guitarist makes! The Les Paul is the only consistent thing about her sound from song to song.

EDIT: This post is so hypocritical though LOL... my current dream is replicating her entire rig! It's a pipe dream though. Boris formed in 1992... she's had 23 years to amass about $30,000 worth of gear. The crazy thing is they bring it all with them when they tour. Like, when Sleep plays in Europe, they leave all their Matamp stuff in the US and rent a bunch of Orange stuff... Wata takes her Oranges everywhere with her

Sleep sold off their matamp stuff years ago. Boris rent their backline too, AFAIK.