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Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:38 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
huh, thats neat. so they're like a cover band for christian rock? do they play a set to warm up the congregation, then get the jam on when the money plate goes around, and finally bring the house down as everybody...dances and stuff and church is over?
when i was in high school i worked at an independent guitar store, this was mid 90s before the big chains and internet etc, anyways i had a customer who was in charge of purchasing a completely new pa system, keyboards, mics etc...the works. an older member had died and in her will was to have all her monies go to the church's musical....department? was near $50,000 worth of equipment when all was said and done, and this was tax free and with the church discount. i made a reallllll nice commission off that. Even helped him set everything up etc.
another thing i just thought of, the guy i bought the shin-ei fy-6 off of emailed me first to make sure I wasn't in a praiseband. i

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Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:54 pm
by sonidero
Uncle Grandfather wrote:huh, thats neat. so they're like a cover band for christian rock? do they play a set to warm up the congregation, then get the jam on when the money plate goes around, and finally bring the house down as everybody...dances and stuff and church is over?
Sometimes they play the whole service, it's part of the vibe for these modern Churches that try to attract young people...
Ahhh the mid '90's, such a simpler time...
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:07 pm
by sonidero
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YqbPEqYdac[/youtube]
This is the flavor...
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:11 pm
by skullservant
sonidero wrote:Uncle Grandfather wrote:huh, thats neat. so they're like a cover band for christian rock? do they play a set to warm up the congregation, then get the jam on when the money plate goes around, and finally bring the house down as everybody...dances and stuff and church is over?
Sometimes they play the whole service, it's part of the vibe for these modern Churches that try to attract young people...
Ahhh the mid '90's, such a simpler time...
It was a super small service, like maybe 30 people including the 5 people in the band. They did songs in between the lessons and sermons like a normal service, instead of a chior it was a band
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:18 pm
by 12XU2A3X3
sonidero wrote:I've installed stadium equivalent speakers and mixers and broadcast booths in some TX Mega-Churches... It's a big deal here, every Sunday is a Soft Rock concert for Christ... Old guys treat it as a club to see and be seen by other local businessmen, not sure how serious they are about the message but they take the Rock and the snacks afterward pretty seriously...
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Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:39 pm
by goroth
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:43 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:01 pm
by sonidero
You could be the new Wulf Zendik...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtDxms00lX8[/youtube]
Just don't be the new Koresh...

Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:11 pm
by Grrface
foomanfat wrote:I don't get the culture of "praise and worship boards," but then I don't care for the notion of having to have a certain pedal to play a certain style in any case, be it doom, post-rock, etc. I use what I like and what I think sounds good in the context. This is coming from someone who does play regularly at a church.
That said, I think you see a lot of really similar setups because, in most cases, these players are simply recreating a tone that is very common in the style of music.
Bingo. I've played in church bands since I started playing bass (actually, it was a worship pastor who taught me to play) and it's basically that. A good overdrive, a distortion for lead lines, and a delay and some simple modulation for guitar. Delays play a big part of most of the songs, my buddy uses a Timeline and actually programs his delay times into his presets for each service. Like any type of music, "praise and worship" music has a kind of formula, but it's always what the band makes of it.
Depending on the size of the church, there is a pretty high production value. It's kind of what's expected at certain size churches, for better or worse. As a bassist, I kept a constant overdrive and a bit of delay or reverb to fill space. I also would use fuzz and filter to fill in for synth, if the song called for it. I was never paid, but some musicians in our church were.
This isn't me on bass in this song, but I did play in this band from time to time. My wife is actually one of the vocalists on this recording, she's on the far right:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_3uBrCvoc[/youtube]
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:43 pm
by Gone Fission
What I've gathered at other places like HCFX and TGP is that the post-rock comment isn't far off if you remove all potentially aggressive sounds and have a couple of flavors of overdrive and/or clean boost. Tim or Timmy, Xotic, JHS, and whatever the flavor of the month is of YATS. Oh, and naturally Klons and Klones. Lots of delays and reverbs, especially for shimmer and pad-sounding stuff. Chorus or Leslie sims for modulation. Maybe some looping, or more practically an EHX Freeze. Maybe an E-bow.
Mostly it's a lot like the back-end time and modulation stuff you might use to smooth over something with interesting rough edges for a dream pop sound.
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:23 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
sonidero wrote:Just don't be the new Koresh...

but the seven seals!!! the seven seals!!! i've seen them at sea world, they bounce balls on their noses.

Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:29 pm
by Grrface
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:39 pm
by ryan summit
SHO
im guessing super hardon
doesnt fly with pastor jim
Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:01 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
ryan summit wrote:SHO
im guessing super hardon
doesnt fly with pastor jim
is that jim bakker or jim swaggart? pretty sure they praised their own SHO.

Re: WWJP......?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:22 pm
by D.o.S.
ryan summit wrote:SHO
im guessing super hardon
doesnt fly with pastor jim
Father Jim loves him some SHO though.
Anyway, I just kind of assume that Pete Seeger is Jesus.
So Jesus would play a banjo.