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Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:06 pm
by ryan summit
so youre sayin im not a true musician
huh
i been sayin that all along
the tone out my fingers sounds like a barking asshole
but we have fun
wait that was a joke wasnt it
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:42 pm
by Noise Supply
Scott Lucas from Local H used to use a guitar in which he installed a bass pickup between the two guitar pickups and it was only across the two bassiest strings. From there it went out a separate output jack that he custom installed, to an octave pedal, and then to a bass amp, while his guitar pickups went to his usual pedalboard to a guitar amp.
You can do something similar without installing a pickup, just breakout the signal before you start adding dirt to it, and eq/octave the bass signal separately.
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:00 pm
by ryan summit
i really want to do stereo pickups
i do +1oct and dry to guitar rig
and-1oct and dry to bass amp
mix at 50/50 is pretty tame but full
the more wet it gets crazy
rumblenwhine
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:10 pm
by sylnau
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:21 pm
by osbornkt
Noise Supply wrote:Scott Lucas from Local H used to use a guitar in which he installed a bass pickup between the two guitar pickups and it was only across the two bassiest strings. From there it went out a separate output jack that he custom installed, to an octave pedal, and then to a bass amp, while his guitar pickups went to his usual pedalboard to a guitar amp.
You can do something similar without installing a pickup, just breakout the signal before you start adding dirt to it, and eq/octave the bass signal separately.
I got inspired seeing a video of Scott Lucas' setup and am working on doing this now. So pumped to get this project going.
But in essence, there are a ton of ways to make a single guitar sound huge. The only question here is how much stuff do you want to buy to make it happen...And as usual, the answer is as much as possible.
Chankgeez wrote:osbornkt wrote:Use multiple cabs! I use a 1x10, 1x12 and 1x15, and it really fills out well. Strategic positioning helps, though (twss?)
Just to clarify, were you TWSSing "really fills out well" or "Strategic positioning" or both?

All inclusive twss, sir.
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:05 pm
by Casavettes
Maybe someone said this in a better way
But I think it's just a matter of how you approach it.
If you're writing songs while thinking, this is where a bass or keyboard or skin flute should go, then you might be shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you already know this and I'm sure you were more so asking from an equipment standpoint, but just my 2 cents

Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:16 pm
by Zander
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:37 pm
by theavondon
Just, lots of amps, and a hard hitting drummer.
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:46 pm
by space6oy
i had a two person drums & guitar band back in i think 05. one of my favorite projects ever. chick drumming & i had only 6 weeks to throw it together & record an 8 song album & play two shows before she was off to grad school in cali. she's not a heavy hitter, played more dance beat type stuff. my rig was a mess of fx though, and i split the signal to both a guitar rig and a bass rig starting w/ a whammy dropping me an octave. no stereo on the guitar & it was still plenty for us. i was using an RC-50 for a bunch of looping though too, am sure that helped w/ some of it.
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:53 pm
by bronzetalon
In my last band I did this one of two ways. I would split my guitar signal into a guitar amp and pog into a rusty box straight to the pa. Or I would run a bass vi into both without the pog. Both seemed to work well for getting a big sound with chords and octaves and such.
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:34 pm
by backwardsvoyager
Man I need to watch this thread closely. I play in a 3-piece with a drummer and keyboardist and my sound is pretty damn thin compared to a stereo keyboard setup.
Pre- and Post-dirt reverb seems to help thicken the sound, especially if the tone knobs are set quite low.
I think I need to start running two amps though, or at least two cabs in different positions.
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:48 pm
by npfrs
Multiple amps FTW.
Also here's a duo that's not hard-hitting but making it work...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFKgipi4Tc4[/youtube]
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:52 pm
by Ghost Hip
Play so hard and energetic that no one gives a fuck that you're a two piece.
Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:19 am
by 01010111
PumpkinPieces wrote:Play so hard and energetic that no one gives a fuck that you're a two piece.
Casavettes wrote:Maybe someone said this in a better way
But I think it's just a matter of how you approach it.
If you're writing songs while thinking, this is where a bass or keyboard or skin flute should go, then you might be shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you already know this and I'm sure you were more so asking from an equipment standpoint, but just my 2 cents

theavondon wrote:Just, lots of amps, and a hard hitting drummer.
If you do these three things you'll fill out the sound
Cannot emphasise the importance of the hard-hittinf, energetic drummer. Every time I listen to the dodos I'm always amazed by how much the drums fill out the sound

Re: Full sound in a one guitar band?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:13 am
by univalve
Thanks Syl!
Two amps, signal splitter, looper:
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdmmMqc4B0Q[/youtube]