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I'm to the point now where I prefer a clean'ish octave pedal, that I can add to the number of awesome fuzzes I already have. Mo options, mo betta.
...But the organizer and bit commander seem great. Have to try them some time.

Trve that I think I need a clean octave pedal so i can pair it with the megalith for rumbling destruction.

Octron > Unpleasant Suprise > Proteus = nuclear weapon

Clean octave is mostly digital I'd say, especially if you're looking for polyphonic clean octave.
The warping/glitching mostly comes with analog stuff though.
To make the octave down even heavier I seriously recommend the DBA Kill Kill Filter, now that can make almost any octave pedal sound heavy as fuck.
I tried a few, my findings more or less are below, in case it might help.

Analog Octave Down.
Aguilar Octamizer: no 2 octave down but running dirt into it brings on the heaviest lows I ever heard
Boss OC-2: lots of fun, the most synthy one I heard so far, nice and special
MXR Bass Octave Deluxe: between the Octamizer and OC-2, better tracking than the OC-2 but not quite as synthy sounding

Octave Down Fuzz
Catalinbread Perseus: nice sound and quite good tracking, mostly not very nasty or glitchy
Copilot FX Mantis II: the same nasty sound as the Seppuku only much more versatile and has better tracking
Electro Harmonix (Bass) Micro Synth: sounds great, lots of possibilities, nice filter too for making really synthy sounds
LAL Gomorrah: whatever
Seppuku Octave Synth: quite nasty sounding in a nice way, tracking isn't very good, not very versatile
Subdecay Octasynth: a bit like a Micro Synth in a small box, sounds really synthy as well, good tracking but can do some cool glitches too, setting the filter to open the way I wanted it was tricky for me though

Polyphonic Octave Down (digital)
Digitech Whammy 5: sounds great but the octave down could be heavier I think, I mostly use the blended octave down / octave up and the pure octave up modes
Electro Harmonix HOG/POG series: don't like any of them, quite a typical sound, either love it or hate it I guess

I love my 2nd voice big fat oct down or up or 2 down and 1 up or 2 down and a 1 down and a fith down ect. Also the fuzz on it rules.

voting organizer. i've been using it with the dry and down maxed and up around 10. throw some fuzz and it is huge.

Well after playing with the pitchfactor some more I recommend. I haven't played with an organizer but the PF can definitely get close to that.

That's some great info Tristan, thanks. I've come to realize I don't want a digital polyphonic octave but an analog octave that sounds gnarly and glitchy but can also track nicely when i need it to. Something that will rumble the world and also glitch the f out. I would prefer a clean octave but I may settle on a fuzz octave. I shall see. Thanks for the advice, y'all!

for maximum clean octave up or down: ring thing, true story.

fungalattack wrote:That's some great info Tristan, thanks. I've come to realize I don't want a digital polyphonic octave but an analog octave that sounds gnarly and glitchy but can also track nicely when i need it to. Something that will rumble the world and also glitch the f out. I would prefer a clean octave but I may settle on a fuzz octave. I shall see. Thanks for the advice, y'all!

You're welcome, I'm a bit of an octave geek myself as well.
From what I tried the digital ones don't seem to get as heavy as some analog ones (Octamizer comes to mind).
However with: Whammy 5 -> Kill Kill Filter -> distortion I'm getting quite some heavy sounds and using this combination without the distortion coaxes the nicest pizzicato double bass or cello like sounds I heard coming from my guitar so far (The Kill Kill Filter just brings so much body to the sound, it's amazing).

The benefit of buying an octave down fuzz is that the fuzz circuit is paired with the octave circuit and therefore you usually get less mush, I mostly also find the glitches to be more useful (Mantis II for instance) than a separate octaver going into a fuzz.
The Mantis II has this great metallic industrial type of octave down sound, very mean and nasty, it's a bit like a (jagged) saw wave in my experience where the OC-2 is more like a sine wave, which sounds like a different (warmer) type of synth.

For the thickest heaviest sound I would use a distortion instead of a fuzz though: Octamizer -> Big D (blasphemy, I know).
If you go to try out some octave pedals, be sure to check them all out before as well as after your fuzzboxes and distortion units, I found that the best and heaviest sounds aren't necessarily always created with the octaver running into the dirt.

So um... as much as i've been opposed to the Organizer, it caught my interest somehow

first of all - i don't really enjoy pedals that make you sound like you're playing a church organ... so if it's clearly aimed at that, not interested

i'm interested if it can be used really tastefully and just slightly, you know - for a hint of something "more" in your sound
also how does it track with complex chords (a lot of added intervals and open strings) and what does the lag sound like with dirt?
Also does the lag affect the characteristics of the sound or is it literally just a short delay?

listening to justnick's demo... i don't know it doesn't sound the way i want it to... why is it so hard to get the sounds in my head to be heard