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Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:58 am
by sonidero
So if yall are so up on the MIDI Bass Game why aint yall posted vids or helpin Walrus figure out what's the haps??? His OG question was about "What does it allow me to do? Seriously. So ignorant with this shit. Trying to understand here."??? I think MIDI triggering from a Guitar or Bass has it's place and there are Pros out there using it to it's fullest but it aint for me... I say get a Synth or a ROMPLER and play that shit and keep the actual Bass and Guitar playing to the Bass and Guitar playing roles... :poke:

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:47 am
by Mudfuzz
sonidero wrote: and keep the actual Bass and Guitar playing to the Bass and Guitar playing roles... :poke:
no fun.

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:54 am
by sonidero
Mudfuzz wrote:
sonidero wrote: and keep the actual Bass and Guitar playing to the Bass and Guitar playing roles... :poke:
no fun.
Everyone here seems to have such a hard time with that and they always askin "how do I make my GuitBass sound like this"...

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:06 am
by Mudfuzz
sonidero wrote:
Mudfuzz wrote:
sonidero wrote: and keep the actual Bass and Guitar playing to the Bass and Guitar playing roles... :poke:
no fun.
Everyone here seems to have such a hard time with that and they always askin "how do I make my GuitBass sound like this"...
dude how do I make my bass sound like a walrus fucking and popcorn machine at 6:00 am on a tuesday? :p

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:12 am
by sonidero
Well first off are you using a Passive or Active Bass, also are you using the best Fuzz for Walrus Fucking cause that's imperative... I would suggest that you get a MIDI Bass and Hook it up to a Roland JV 1080 and use Patch #666 tuned to Dropped Q and then send it through some kind of Eventide Harmonizer set to the Animal Fucks Preset then any kind of Boss Chorus mixed with a tad of Flange plus some True Bypass Analog PT2399 Delay and you should get close...

Hope that helps... :hello:

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:23 am
by Mudfuzz
:lol:
:hug:

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:12 pm
by ChetMagongalo
I had a midi guitar synth for awhile but I sold it because I would just rather have pedals. or maybe a synth. I would rather just have the actual thing than control it with a guitar. it just didn't feel right to me

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:41 am
by MaxMaps
Like I have said before in the past, the Game Changer is a great bass for someone who is a clinic player that does primarily studio only playing. But you have a rosco which AFAIK could probably match as many sounds as the Game Changer.

So maybe your missing just having a music man.

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:20 am
by Jwar
MaxMaps wrote:Like I have said before in the past, the Game Changer is a great bass for someone who is a clinic player that does primarily studio only playing. But you have a rosco which AFAIK could probably match as many sounds as the Game Changer.

So maybe your missing just having a music man.
True dat.

I'm looking at a Buckeye Roscoe now though. So yea....hahahahahahaha


Fuck I have ADD

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:27 am
by Deltaphoenix
Hey Dicks,
I just got a Yamaha G-50 MIDI convertor (for cheap). I still have to get a MIDI pickup (well really a hex pickup). I am going to get a rack synth. The key is to play higher on the neck and make patches that are pitched down an octave.

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:38 am
by fiddelerselbow
jwar wrote:So I'm a complete fucking moron when it comes to midi. I just...I don't get what it is or what it does. LOL...seriously. I've been looking at the Musicman Game Changer lately because I've been fucking gasing for that motherfucker since it was announced. I noticed it has midi control on it. What would that bring to the table on a bass or a guitar? What does it allow me to do? Seriously. So ignorant with this shit. Trying to understand here.

From what I can see it basically means you can use your guitar to play midi compatible synths. How much you can do depends on the synth really and how well the guitar tracks. Stuff that's out at the moment doesn't seem too great or very flexible. I'd fucking love a good midi guitar to plug into reaktor to make weird noise or jittery idm shit.

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:43 pm
by rfurtkamp
So, a bass guitar that ran a synth would be really cool for me.
Waiting for the Squier Bass VIs to appear, then slapping a GK-2/3 on it and going to synthtown on my GR-55.

Should be loads of fun, I love it with my Jag/GK3 combo but I desperately want a synth VI.

Synth guitar (or bass) is a thing where you get what you pay for in huge, huge degrees - and you have to not be afraid of programming and multifx to make it work.

But I love having actual 'holy shit this thing tracks what I'm doing' versus pure noisemaking splat sometimes, and that's the only way to do it.

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:21 am
by fiddelerselbow
rfurtkamp wrote:
So, a bass guitar that ran a synth would be really cool for me.
Waiting for the Squier Bass VIs to appear, then slapping a GK-2/3 on it and going to synthtown on my GR-55.

Should be loads of fun, I love it with my Jag/GK3 combo but I desperately want a synth VI.

Synth guitar (or bass) is a thing where you get what you pay for in huge, huge degrees - and you have to not be afraid of programming and multifx to make it work.

But I love having actual 'holy shit this thing tracks what I'm doing' versus pure noisemaking splat sometimes, and that's the only way to do it.

Do you think a GK3 would work well with a laptop running reaktor? I've been rolling about the idea of getting one for ages, but I'll pass if it's gonna be a pain in the ass to get working well.

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:12 pm
by Deltaphoenix
You can't just plug the GK3 into a Midi in on an audio interface, it doesn't produce midi data, it still has go to some sort of guitar-to-midi box.

Re: Midi bass and midi in general

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:59 pm
by rfurtkamp
Yea, you'll need something that reads the pickup. That gets pricey for anything good, and know how to set up the PU (and spend time doing it). Once it's on and configured you're good to go with it, but it's like finding a tech 20 years ago to adjust a Jaguar trem. You're pretty much going to be on your own for the little stuff, then learn how to play for the PU/your tracking device. Newer stuff is a LOT more forgiving than older tech; my GR-55 is stupid good and takes work to actually mistrack (which is funny, because I loved random notes and wacky sometimes, just not all the time)

And any MIDI stuff has the potential to be a serious pain in the ass, especially for a first-time user/setup.

Even something as easy as a hardware MIDI out into your DAW may take some tweaking to get rolling properly - MIDI has been expanded in many ways from its original uses and is from a time in which plug and play type devices weren't even a thought with hope of implementation.