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Dude that earthquake cab with octave down guitar is fucking nuts. Or two octave down so glitches punch i in the chesticles.

whiskey_face wrote:Subs with guitar rigs who would ever do that. . . .

This guy:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMgOz3fS3M0[/youtube]

I use a 2x15 and a gk 4122h bass cab in addition to the more normal 4x12 and 2x12 in my rig. It absolutly makes a huge difference in the power of the low end. A bass cab and a powerfull tube head to run it are absolutely the way to go.

the most awesome thing ever that i've found for filling out awesome low end shit is a fucking bass player. for real. some bands pull it off but 99% of the time you would be better off with a bass player. and if you have one, do not get in a war of competing for those super low subwoofer frequencies with them. you will only make your band sound like shit. each instrument sits in its own spot and together they sound awesome and crushing. guitar players often have this problem where they want to fill every spot. by yourself it may sound great, but with a band it does not. let everyone have their place.

this is not intended as a slam against using 15's. 15's are great and can be integrated into a guitar rig in awesome ways, but a sub with a crossover is probably a mistake. if your music is suffering so much from lack of a bass player, then just get a bass player.

that is some gnar gain on that amp

misterstomach wrote:the most awesome thing ever that i've found for filling out awesome low end shit is a fucking bass player. for real. some bands pull it off but 99% of the time you would be better off with a bass player. and if you have one, do not get in a war of competing for those super low subwoofer frequencies with them. you will only make your band sound like shit. each instrument sits in its own spot and together they sound awesome and crushing. guitar players often have this problem where they want to fill every spot. by yourself it may sound great, but with a band it does not. let everyone have their place.

this is not intended as a slam against using 15's. 15's are great and can be integrated into a guitar rig in awesome ways, but a sub with a crossover is probably a mistake. if your music is suffering so much from lack of a bass player, then just get a bass player.

Thats why tony is running half his signal through a 400 watt tube amp

I totally agree about the competing shit though. You have to get the overall into balance. we are taking a rather extreme approach and it hasn't always been a walk in the park. It's pretty dialed in now though. Probably not something you can do with a simple setup and low power amps.

Also, 15's and for that matter 10"s can be better than 12's for guitar. I recently read a piece about how 12's became the dominant speaker because that was the cheaper more available option for the early marshalls. It makes sense. great amp into pretty good cab will still crush crappy amp into great cab. economics and capitalism is why we all crave those 12's. I'm all about taking the home stereo approach to speakers now and try to match amps to the cab that is right for that amps voice. which is why the only speaker size I am not using is 18's and 8's.

Also I am drunk.

Edit: I thought for a whole second longer and realized that what I do is set the guitar sound so it cuts through, but when I slam the low notes, it's really as a complement to his bass sound. Does that make sense? I doubt it but I'm throwing it out there anyways

misterstomach wrote:the most awesome thing ever that i've found for filling out awesome low end shit is a fucking bass player. for real. some bands pull it off but 99% of the time you would be better off with a bass player. and if you have one, do not get in a war of competing for those super low subwoofer frequencies with them. you will only make your band sound like shit. each instrument sits in its own spot and together they sound awesome and crushing. guitar players often have this problem where they want to fill every spot. by yourself it may sound great, but with a band it does not. let everyone have their place.

this is not intended as a slam against using 15's. 15's are great and can be integrated into a guitar rig in awesome ways, but a sub with a crossover is probably a mistake. if your music is suffering so much from lack of a bass player, then just get a bass player.

Or play baritone guitars. But yeah, this is what I was thinking when reading this thread. A subwoofer would just interfere with the bassist, but I wasn't sure if the OP had a bassist....

I use an 18" bass cab with a bass head plus a 2x12 guitar combo. It's full as hell.

sooooOOOOOooooo OP is it a band or a project? like in for a month bam out? or you wanting to really get ballz deep in with the doom crew?

ramblings of a drunk. . . . comming up

for cheap as dicks and heavy as big natural tits, go for an SS bass head + 2 x15s off craigslist.

add a rat and for under 500$ you can compete with half stack marshalls but fucking bass them outta the goddamn water. then when its time to pack up and go re sell for cheap as dirt BAM! no cash lost.

OR . . . .

sell that combo. . .

buy SS bass head or heads add 2x15s until your broke and rock out with your cock out. . . .

I rock a guitar rig & bass rig at the same time. it's really wonderful. no need for a cross over to the bass rig, just use the EQ to find a good tone to match your guitar setup,
I wouldn't get a sub/crossover - no tone.

So no one has used one? I'd like to hear from some users. These subs are made specifically for guitar so it makes me think that the whole competing with the bassist argument may not apply. I know that a few of the early 2000's "NuMetal" type guitarists (Deftones, Tool, etc) had them. I wish I could test one out.