I think Jimmy Page is the most guitar godest electric

[D.o.S.]

Eh, if you had given me Songs About Fucking a couple of years ago I would have stomped it into a million pieces and hissed through my teeth in rage for a whole week, this is coming from someone of a very 2000's indie background. Now I know better and I love it.

Also, I don't really know enough about Jimmy Von Jammerson to give an opinion. Most of my tastes in music are 80's onwards with the exception of some Jazz, Prog and Kraut Rock stuff. Classic rock doesn't really do anything for me.

What is "a very 2000's indie background?" The Shins/Postal Service type stuff?

[devideva]

Well, there's no doubt that Page is a pivotal rock guitarist, but if it wasn't him, someone else would've come along to fill those shoes.

Like whom?
Hom Brah?

[Twangasaurus]

What is "a very 2000's indie background?" The Shins/Postal Service type stuff?

Yeah, that's about right. Pretty much stuff that was on labels like Sub Pop, Matador, Saddle Creek and Barsuk. I still like all that sort of stuff occasionally but I think like a lot of people I out grew my teenage genre infatuations (aka prejudices). I'm a great believer that pretty much every genre has something for me, I've just got to find it. Some more than others of course.

[The4455]

Wait you seriously didn't like Songs About Fucking?

I thought that post was a joke.

Nope, I'd listen to it again, to fully assure my opinion, but I didn't really enjoy it. My Boss put it on at the Record Store that I work at, it's good record store music. I had wanted to listen to it because of the talk about it here and elsewhere.

[D.o.S.]

Wait you seriously didn't like Songs About Fucking?

I thought that post was a joke.

Nope, I'd listen to it again, to fully assure my opinion, but I didn't really enjoy it. My Boss put it on at the Record Store that I work at, it's good record store music. I had wanted to listen to it because of the talk about it here and elsewhere.

Oh man, that cover of He's A Whore is one of my favorites.

Different strokes and what not, of course.

What kind of jams are your thing, if you don't mind the question.

[GardenoftheDead]

I used to be nuts over Big Black but once I got around to listening to Shellac they've basically dominated my Albini quota.

[The4455]

Wait you seriously didn't like Songs About Fucking?

I thought that post was a joke.

Nope, I'd listen to it again, to fully assure my opinion, but I didn't really enjoy it. My Boss put it on at the Record Store that I work at, it's good record store music. I had wanted to listen to it because of the talk about it here and elsewhere.

Oh man, that cover of He's A Whore is one of my favorites.

Different strokes and what not, of course.

What kind of jams are your thing, if you don't mind the question.

Good Question, I wonder this myself all the time. Right now I'm listening to the Melvins live in Finland. I've been listening to Dave Brubek's "Time Out" album, "Deep Breakfast" by Ray Lynch, and various Fu-Manchu and Electric Wizard lately. To me "Songs about fucking" isn't tight musically, the music it's self but also the way that it's mixed. There's some cool stuff in there in terms of sounds and mixing, but cooler in thought than in reality, for me. I like SPK, Skinny Puppy, Xymox, and Front 242, I'm not a huge punk rock fan though. The industrial elements of that album are cool, but the punk/new wave type stuff is not executed well enough on it's own or in combination with the industrial things going on for it to be one thing. It's as if on some of the tracks you're hearing two bands playing at once, some punk groups and some industrial group, but they're playing against each other not with each other.

[Achtane]

I used to be nuts over Big Black but once I got around to listening to Shellac they've basically dominated my Albini quota.

This.
But I still like Rapeman the most.

[D.o.S.]

Wait you seriously didn't like Songs About Fucking?

I thought that post was a joke.

Nope, I'd listen to it again, to fully assure my opinion, but I didn't really enjoy it. My Boss put it on at the Record Store that I work at, it's good record store music. I had wanted to listen to it because of the talk about it here and elsewhere.

Oh man, that cover of He's A Whore is one of my favorites.

Different strokes and what not, of course.

What kind of jams are your thing, if you don't mind the question.

Good Question, I wonder this myself all the time. Right now I'm listening to the Melvins live in Finland. I've been listening to Dave Brubek's "Time Out" album, "Deep Breakfast" by Ray Lynch, and various Fu-Manchu and Electric Wizard lately. To me "Songs about fucking" isn't tight musically, the music it's self but also the way that it's mixed. There's some cool stuff in there in terms of sounds and mixing, but cooler in thought than in reality, for me. I like SPK, Skinny Puppy, Xymox, and Front 242, I'm not a huge punk rock fan though. The industrial elements of that album are cool, but the punk/new wave type stuff is not executed well enough on it's own or in combination with the industrial things going on for it to be one thing. It's as if on some of the tracks you're hearing two bands playing at once, some punk groups and some industrial group, but they're playing against each other not with each other.

That's probably the best description of Big Black I've ever read.

[StopReferencing]

I listened to the Beatles the other day -


bad music for bad people.

[DarkAxel]

there are about two things I like/respect Page for

a) theremin experiments
b) violin bow

yep

[The4455]

What kind of jams are your thing, if you don't mind the question.[/quote]

Good Question, I wonder this myself all the time. Right now I'm listening to the Melvins live in Finland. I've been listening to Dave Brubek's "Time Out" album, "Deep Breakfast" by Ray Lynch, and various Fu-Manchu and Electric Wizard lately. To me "Songs about fucking" isn't tight musically, the music it's self but also the way that it's mixed. There's some cool stuff in there in terms of sounds and mixing, but cooler in thought than in reality, for me. I like SPK, Skinny Puppy, Xymox, and Front 242, I'm not a huge punk rock fan though. The industrial elements of that album are cool, but the punk/new wave type stuff is not executed well enough on it's own or in combination with the industrial things going on for it to be one thing. It's as if on some of the tracks you're hearing two bands playing at once, some punk groups and some industrial group, but they're playing against each other not with each other.[/quote]

That's probably the best description of Big Black I've ever read.[/quote]

Thanks?

Yah I have two violin bows at home, never really use them though. I had a theremin as well, sold it

[bigchiefbc]

A lot of Page's signature riffs are ridiculously derivative, but I don't mean that as insulting as it sounds. There were quite a few guitarists coming out around that time period that managed to take a lot of the dominant blues licks and repurpose them for hard rock, but Page really did manage to go further with it than most (in his time period, obviously later guys took it further). It's his non-blues based stuff that I love so much. No Quarter, Kashmir, Achilles Last Stand, Rain Song, hell even Song Remains the Same. That's the shit that grabs me, because he managed to take an eastern/world music/weird modal stuff vibe, and adapt it to rock, in a much more seamless way than other guys who had tried it before (aka Harrison with the sitar stuff).

[hiorgos]

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[Chankgeez]

there are about two things I like/respect Page for

a) [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lekAYjwXbsw[/youtube]
b) [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oig8z4HvBL8[/youtube]

yep