Cloning the CC/DC

[Mr. Wire]

I don't have a schematic yet. I own a CC/DC. Looked inside, saw what was going on & didn't need a schem. woop! If you can build a bazz or an electra, you can figure out how to build a cc/dc.

Caps: 473
Transistors: 2n5088

[chutneyfarmer]

Just looking at the components there, am I wrong in saying that it may be closer to the LPB than the Bazz Fuss? Seems like a similar number of components:

5 resistors
2 capacitors
Same transistor


Also, thanks Mr. Wire for sharing your info and pictures with us. Was very unsuccessful in my attempts to take decent pictures of the pcb over the weekend.

[Dr Satan]

Fixed, thanks Scruffie.

[Scruffie]

It's 2 Electras with the clipping diodes removed, adding them back in would make a nice mod, possibly with a blend.

And it's 470R for the dirty channel.

[bigmufffuzzwizz]

It's 2 Electras with the clipping diodes removed, adding them back in would make a nice mod, possibly with a blend.

And it's 470R for the dirty channel.

Looks about as simple as two gain stages can get. Get em scruff!

[Dr Satan]

Oh and thanks for posting pics Mr. Wire.

[Scruffie]

It's 2 Electras with the clipping diodes removed, adding them back in would make a nice mod, possibly with a blend.

And it's 470R for the dirty channel.

Looks about as simple as two gain stages can get. Get em scruff!

Hello, hello, what are you doing in my neck of the woods bigmufffuzzwizz!

Another mod idea, switching the 1M resistor on either stage to a diode makes it a Bazz Fuss or Dirty Channel/ Dirtier Channel.

Ahh such a simple circuit, so much that can be done with it, input cap blend? Changing the emitter resistors to pots for gain controls, adding an electro off the emitter to ground.

Nice job on the schematic Dr Satan.

[eatyourguitar]

on the subject of input cap blends, I recently discovered a negative side affect. there is some phasing and I don't think I like it. from now on I only do input cap blend in the dirty dirt or the fuzzy fuzz. I don't do it on low gain overdrive cause I just don't like it. you can however make fancy front end tone stacks with opamps that have very little phasing but then its not a simple mod anymore. I mention this cause people love to add mods but rarely consider if you NEED the mod or if it even makes things better.

[Scruffie]

Huh, I suppose it would with the resistance and 2 caps, if you're panning, could blend in a cap in parallel with the other one, might not have the same issue. Or you can always use a rotary switch, personally i'm not bothered about input cap switching so never experimented with them but they can work on things like the electra.

No need to mod it, but nice for people to have the option to if they want to, the Bazz Fuss mod would be nice for taking it from Overdrive to Fuzz to get 2 pedals (or 3 or 4) in one though.

[Dr Satan]

Yeah it really is just a basic building block, it doesn't take much to go from this to a fuzz face, big muff, or any number of other circuits. Might be a neat idea to make just a single board that held the building block and then you lego them together how you want. A modular fuzz pedal, lol, how cool would that be?

[bigmufffuzzwizz]

Yeah it really is just a basic building block, it doesn't take much to go from this to a fuzz face, big muff, or any number of other circuits. Might be a neat idea to make just a single board that held the building block and then you lego them together how you want. A modular fuzz pedal, lol, how cool would that be?

Kinda like the blackout effectors fix'd fuzz..multiple gain stages that you can switch in and out of the audio signal. Raulduke (SJ effects) has done a few like this but a series of mini pcbs could be cool.

[eatyourguitar]

Huh, I suppose it would with the resistance and 2 caps, if you're panning, could blend in a cap in parallel with the other one, might not have the same issue.

this is the one I have a phase sound with. compared to just using one input cap.

[Dr Satan]

Huh, I suppose it would with the resistance and 2 caps, if you're panning, could blend in a cap in parallel with the other one, might not have the same issue.

this is the one I have a phase sound with. compared to just using one input cap.

Did you try just putting the caps on the outer lugs and the wiper to the input? Devi Ever does that on a lot of her pedals and I've never heard anyone mention anything about phasing sounds.

[eatyourguitar]

Did you try just putting the caps on the outer lugs and the wiper to the input? Devi Ever does that on a lot of her pedals and I've never heard anyone mention anything about phasing sounds.

thats not my favorite way of doing it. your impedance is at maximum in the middle of the pot. on a 100K linear pot that is 50K to each cap. at each end of the tone control you have 0hms after your cap. cap reactance is maybe 1K more or less for any frequency that comes out of a guitar. so your input impedance goes from 1k to 50k and back to 1k. all the more transparent sounds are missing at 50k but they get masked in a devi pedal with high gain.

now 10k is better but your not really doing much unless your circuit is very sensitive to cap changes to start with since your not really taking the caps out of the circuit at +10k. the tone control in my schematic, I used it on a fuzz factory after Q1 and it worked %100 to my satisfaction. other circuits that were more like boosters and LPB-1 etc.. I did not like it as much once I noticed the phasing.

[chutneyfarmer]

Wow! Amazing work guys one thing I don't quite get though, there seems to be 5 resistors per boost on the original, but in the schematics there are only 4. There's 2 extra resistors in the schematics for the LEDs but they weren't in the original pedal. Any idea what that's about?