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Haha, that kill your television part was quite swell. If it wasn't for that Conan O'brien..... I'd do it

Wish I had a teacher like him in school. The only thing my TV is for is movies and retro games...that's it.

I never took art in high school, was told you have to be good to take those classes and that they were a waste of time because artists can't get real jobs.
Don't even get me started on music.

So I majored in art and photography.
Hated the tedious project assignments, but loved the vague, interpret as you will ones.
Worked in photography for years and grew to hate the commercial side of things.

Don't like working with models. My best work with models was the candid stuff I shot using a 200 or 300mm lens between the “real” takes.

In some ways I try to show the way I see the world around me and the people in it, which shows those who look closely who I really am.

MM

metalmariachi wrote:I never took art in high school, was told you have to be good to take those classes and that they were a waste of time because artists can't get real jobs.
Don't even get me started on music.

So I majored in art and photography.
Hated the tedious project assignments, but loved the vague, interpret as you will ones.
Worked in photography for years and grew to hate the commercial side of things.

Don't like working with models. My best work with models was the candid stuff I shot using a 200 or 300mm lens between the “real” takes.

In some ways I try to show the way I see the world around me and the people in it, which shows those who look closely who I really am.

MM

My music SUCKED in high school. Fascists. All fascists.

Ditto. My Tedious ones, I completely botched in my view, but I still got As, so I was doing SOMEthing right. After shooting upteen 'ad' shots, me too. I don't really plan a career on photo or music, just really really expensive hobbies.

I hear that! I hit em offguard with my Diana and Holga... I got one, in the Holgas beautiful grainy-ness, she looked so damn scared. Turns out she was a speed addict, and owed the dealer money. She was in the paper. The photo is blown up and above my amp. I hoep to get her silkscreened on the bass drum sometime...but that's doubtful.

I just document...from the inside. Kinda gonzo-ish. Buy the ticket, take the ride. Very much, Larry Clark, not as Hardcore though.

I hate any rules associated with art, which is probably why I don't make any. People always say stupid things, trying to tell you that their way is the right way. For instance, paintings on canvas annoy the crap out of me. Not because I don't like paint on canvas, but because most artists paint so thin you can see the shape of the canvas. If I were to paint, I'd paint thick enough to cover the canvas, but if I did that in an art class I'd probably get failed.

The only thing I don't like and will refuse to call art is all those splattered dots pieces of shit. I know at first that sounds like it goes against my no rules rule, but it has to do with how I see any kind of art. A true artist can take a mistake and make it into part of their work, or they can cover it up and no one will ever know it happened. They have complete control, to the limit of their tools, of every aspect of the final product. If they like the way random dots splattered onto their medium looks, they should be able to re create the effect. No paint should be randomly thrown, that's not art until they do something with that paint after it's on the canvas. And this goes for any kind of art, from cooking to music to architecture. A real artist has complete control, and fixes or uses mistakes, they do not let them stand. The work must not be the master.

My art teacher put limits on art but she always said if you could convince her to do otherwise she'd listen and be open to your ideas. One photography project we were supposed to photograph someone elses day.... I didn't want to do that. So i took pictures of inanimate objects like a spoon in yogurt, inside of a VCR, etc. and made five versions of five photos via photoshop. Going from the original picture to a wild interpretation. I just came into class and said "i didn't want to do this project so I did my own."

I got an A.

I think a lot of that random splatter should be reserved for wall paper or decoration. I don't consider devi's art random....judging by her videos, and the fact she puts words to her paintings that create an image. It's hard for me to say what's "any toddler could do that" and "that's genius"..... I guess it's the thought behind it that matters.

What I've seen of Devi's work she does stuff with the splatters afterwards. I'd call that "creating" a mistake and then working with it.

What about Jackson Pollock? He did the whole splatter thing, but if you look closely you can see splatters.

OH! I also like the paintings, that are squares, with the colours...I don't know the name, DAMN!

WaveForm3 wrote:What about Jackson Pollock? He did the whole splatter thing, but if you look closely you can see splatters.

OH! I also like the paintings, that are squares, with the colours...I don't know the name, DAMN!

i know what you're talking about....shoot my friend painted his furniture like that.

I agree. I remember my theory teacher showing us a composer (don't have my book with me) and he all of his songs used a scale made up entirely of whole steps, no half steps.

Twas epic. If someone did that now-a-days, and successfully (I've tried, haha) they'd probably have an impact.

There's also the Yoko Ono theory, even if the people walk out in anger, you still did a good job because you made them feel something.

i think the rules are there to give you a basic foundation. you dont necessarily need it, but it helps. things like the color wheel gives you the basic knowledge of how colors will mix together, so creating the color in your mind is a bit easier. learning these techniques help give you a basic foundation for you to leap from. from there you can create your own style and come up with something new. if you look at picasso, his father was an art teacher i believe. he taught him the basic foundation, and at a very young age picasso was an amazing painter. he created pieces that were very realistic. from there picasso's style went through many changes. eventually he was one of the artist that helped create the cubist style. i guess my main point is that you dont have to follow the rules, but if you want to emulate a certain style or technique it helps to have some knowledge about the rules of art. its good to learn about perspective, colors combinations, what is pleasing to the eye, etc. they can make your work more interesting and something that just doesnt get passed by in a gallery or show.

I never liked art class. The only story I can really remember is of an assignment given to us in my sophomore year in high school in which we had to choose a famous painting by a famous artist and emulate it using a different medium than the original. I was going to do something by Mathias Grunwald initially, but then decided "fuck it" and went with the Mona Lisa, using oil pastels. So, I did it, and the teacher seemed to be thoroughly impressed, and something about that really irked me, so I drew a giant red slash through it right before turning it in. I still got a B+, though. Which pissed me off a bit more. Maybe it was teen angst
I know there are a couple others, and I'll try to find the correlating pieces of art to go with each story, but I've moved over 16 times since then, so everything I own is all over the place.
Another one I kind of remember was having to make a furniture design prototype using whatever materials we wanted, I chose to use bits of broken plastic and condoms melted together. Don't remember the outcome of that, though.

I remember on about texture so went Dadaist and turned in a roll of toilet paper coated in sand.

MM

Skarrgus wrote:I never liked art class. The only story I can really remember is of an assignment given to us in my sophomore year in high school in which we had to choose a famous painting by a famous artist and emulate it using a different medium than the original. I was going to do something by Mathias Grunwald initially, but then decided "fuck it" and went with the Mona Lisa, using oil pastels. So, I did it, and the teacher seemed to be thoroughly impressed, and something about that really irked me, so I drew a giant red slash through it right before turning it in. I still got a B+, though. Which pissed me off a bit more. Maybe it was teen angst
I know there are a couple others, and I'll try to find the correlating pieces of art to go with each story, but I've moved over 16 times since then, so everything I own is all over the place.
Another one I kind of remember was having to make a furniture design prototype using whatever materials we wanted, I chose to use bits of broken plastic and condoms melted together. Don't remember the outcome of that, though.

I would pay to those...