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Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:35 pm
by the Life Aquatic
pigmaker wrote:yeah for recording it's prety sweet too, also sound guys at venues love it because the guitarist can just plug direct into the pa
its got a cab sim too?
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:52 pm
by pigmaker
the profiles include the cabs - at least, the majority do - cuz its actually theamp and the speaker they make the profiles from
thats why with the first version, u need a FRFR cabinet/speaker.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:14 pm
by pigmaker
full disclosure: the people at kemper appear to be complete assclowns, go look at their forum, it's horrible
but people love their product
above when i said "first version"..they have announced a second version of the KPA to be released soon - with built in power amp, and an option to run the KPA to a "normal" guitar cabinet. instead of a FRFR
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:43 pm
by rfurtkamp
Assclowns is putting it mildly, they had shills spamming various forums for a couple years before the thing came out.
Wouldn't buy one even if it was a quarter of the price, and I'm not a modelling luddite.
The thing that I'd like to see is a A/B tweaked patch shootout between, say, a Fender Mustang, a Axe FX, and a Kemper thing. With nobody knowing what they're playing through. Toss in a couple actual amps too, just for fun.
(And I should note I've been using modelling junk for years without complaint, it doesn't sound exactly like what it claims, but I don't care as long as it sounds good. And some things are stupid, stupid good. But I didn't sell my Deluxe or Jazz Chorus either!)
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:24 am
by pigmaker
regarding their forum being a bastion of assclownery...
not only do you have the owners insulting users who request feature updates for stuff they were PROMISED when the initial kemper was released...now you have European posters using broken engilsh to stereotype those posters who want said features as lazy entitled americans
part of me wants a kemper so i can profile my champ with my stompboxes and then play it like it's 100 watt amp
the other part of me wants a kemper so i can smear feces on it and set it on fire
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:32 am
by Haki
pigmaker wrote:part of me wants a kemper so i can profile my champ with my stompboxes and then play it like it's 100 watt amp
the other part of me wants a kemper so i can smear feces on it and set it on fire
Do both those things at the same time.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:51 am
by goroth
pigmaker wrote:now you have European posters using broken engilsh to stereotype those posters who want said features as lazy entitled americans
Thus proving that Americans have neither a patent on stereotyping people nor find themselves alone in abusing the English language.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:39 am
by univalve
goroth wrote:pigmaker wrote:now you have European posters using broken engilsh to stereotype those posters who want said features as lazy entitled americans
Thus proving that Americans have neither a patent on stereotyping people nor find themselves alone in abusing the English language.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:50 am
by Twangasaurus
On my many travels I once heard a walrus cast aspersions upon a seagull in what could only be described as L33T speak. He even had a page of ASCII characters printed out on a gilded scroll.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:57 am
by jrmy
Twangasaurus wrote:On my many travels I once heard a walrus cast aspersions upon a seagull in what could only be described as L33T speak. He even had a page of ASCII characters printed out on a gilded scroll.
Pure poetry. Lewis Carroll would be proud.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:36 am
by rfurtkamp
pigmaker wrote:regarding their forum being a bastion of assclownery...
not only do you have the owners insulting users who request feature updates for stuff they were PROMISED when the initial kemper was released...now you have European posters using broken engilsh to stereotype those posters who want said features as lazy entitled americans
part of me wants a kemper so i can profile my champ with my stompboxes and then play it like it's 100 watt amp
the other part of me wants a kemper so i can smear feces on it and set it on fire
If it let me profile effects and adjust them in a meaningful manner, I'd want one regardless of the assclownery.
But generic amp modelling stuff, I can dial in stuff criminally close to my old live recordings using a Fender Mustang V head where I abused Champs and BF Bassmans, and in an a/b signal split between it and my Hot Rod Deluxe, I can't tell the difference on the clean channel. HRD is a little more sparkly in the room at very low volumes, but it doesn't transfer to tape.
But a "profiling amp" - which, frankly, it isn't, it's a profiling device - no amp included, would have to be able to make actual adaptive changes that just aren't possible in today's snapshot modelling plus handle stompboxes (beyond having some built in) to be truly revolutionary.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:38 am
by pigmaker
goroth wrote:pigmaker wrote:now you have European posters using broken engilsh to stereotype those posters who want said features as lazy entitled americans
Thus proving that Americans have neither a patent on stereotyping people nor find themselves alone in abusing the English language.
Credit where credit is due
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:41 am
by pigmaker
rfurtkamp wrote:pigmaker wrote:regarding their forum being a bastion of assclownery...
not only do you have the owners insulting users who request feature updates for stuff they were PROMISED when the initial kemper was released...now you have European posters using broken engilsh to stereotype those posters who want said features as lazy entitled americans
part of me wants a kemper so i can profile my champ with my stompboxes and then play it like it's 100 watt amp
the other part of me wants a kemper so i can smear feces on it and set it on fire
If it let me profile effects and adjust them in a meaningful manner, I'd want one regardless of the assclownery.
But generic amp modelling stuff, I can dial in stuff criminally close to my old live recordings using a Fender Mustang V head where I abused Champs and BF Bassmans, and in an a/b signal split between it and my Hot Rod Deluxe, I can't tell the difference on the clean channel. HRD is a little more sparkly in the room at very low volumes, but it doesn't transfer to tape.
But a "profiling amp" - which, frankly, it isn't, it's a profiling device - no amp included, would have to be able to make actual adaptive changes that just aren't possible in today's snapshot modelling plus handle stompboxes (beyond having some built in) to be truly revolutionary.
Well i have read a bunch of shit about the KPA and seen a bunch of videos and i am left with the impression that "If it let me profile effects and adjust them in a meaningful manner" is exactly what it does
not saying it is the *correct* impression
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:41 am
by bronzetalon
I will just say I love my axe fx...but not so much for the amp modeling but for the effect routing. I don't know how in depth the other profilers are but the Axe-Fx II has killed pedal gas aside from fuzz for me. It also solved my problem of wanting different effect orders for every sound I wanted to use.
Re: kemper profiling amp - anyone have one, tried one?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:48 am
by pigmaker
bronzetalon wrote:I will just say I love my axe fx...but not so much for the amp modeling but for the effect routing. I don't know how in depth the other profilers are but the Axe-Fx II has killed pedal gas aside from fuzz for me. It also solved my problem of wanting different effect orders for every sound I wanted to use.
killed pedal gas? wow, so you must be using the pedal slots built into the amp then?