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Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:08 pm
by transients
Achtane wrote:Shield that jank, man. Aluminum pickguards look cool but I don't think they're necessary if you cover all of the cavities in shielding tape, connect them together with a little more tape, shield the bottom of the pickguard, and connect that to the cavities. It should be much quieter afterward.
You can cheap out and do it with aluminum foil but it's more of a pain in the ass.
YEAH I MISSED A COUPLE POSTS WHATEVER
Yup, complete shielding makes a world of difference! Just get the copper tape (i'm sure there's cheaper options than stewmac out there) and put it all over the body cavities, the bottom of the pickguard, make sure they all overlap/connect, then make sure it's all connected to the ground. It's probably a little easier to use shielding paint in the body cavities, but it's pretty expensive so fuck that.
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:29 am
by theavondon
Two things:
1) Noise gates can be used well. Albini uses one in Shellac (the mxr, IIRC) and the dude from 400 Blows uses a Rocktron Hush. Both amazing guitar tones.
2) I own two jazzmasters now, and I've never reaaaaaaaaally noticed much noise on my J Mascis, which has a metal guard. Or, really, my other one, which doesn't. Maybe I'm dumb though.
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:52 pm
by DarkAxel
i think i'm gonna go the tape shielding way

anything i should beware?
btw... copper or aluminium? is there much of a difference?
also... about connecting to the ground... so i shouldn't have my ground go to the bridge? (i use tusq saddles, so i can't ground through bridge anymore)
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:02 pm
by sonidero
DarkAxel wrote:i think i'm gonna go the tape shielding way

anything i should beware?
btw... copper or aluminium? is there much of a difference?
also... about connecting to the ground... so i shouldn't have my ground go to the bridge? (i use tusq saddles, so i can't ground through bridge anymore)
The only difference would be the price... I for one don't notice hum on my Jazz unless one of the pedals is acting up...
Why did you have to go to another forum when we know all the answers???
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:07 pm
by DarkAxel
i might have expected OSG to be something else than it really is
also i tend to feel a bit stupid here as of late

i have no fucking idea what i want, i ask weird questions etc
anyway the thing is... i'm talking pretty high gain here, so the hum is very amplified and hence understandable
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:12 pm
by dubkitty
DarkAxel wrote:also i tend to feel a bit stupid here as of late

i have no fucking idea what i want, i ask weird questions etc
that's one of the things we're here for, is to share information

Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:24 pm
by DarkAxel

thanks, guys
anyway... the ground thingie... what was that about the ground supposing to be connected with the tape shielding?
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:29 pm
by sonidero
What's it attached to now??? The main thing is that the shielding from the cavity and the back of the pickguard make contact and the ground should touch the shielding at some point... If it's just screwed into the wood just screw it through the shielding once it's in place...
Make sense???
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:38 pm
by dubkitty
you're creating a ground circuit, so you want everything going to ground to be electrically connected...the ground wire has to make contact with the shielding, and the pieces of tape should overlap as well so everything is conductive.
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:46 pm
by Achtane
Yeah, the idea is to enclose the circuitry in a magical shielding box, and it's gotta be grounded too. The shielding tape is just one giant ground.
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:52 pm
by sonidero
Achtane wrote:Yeah, the idea is to enclose the circuitry in a magical shielding box.
Ooohhh tell me moar about this Box of yours Achtane... Will it help contain my Dumble-Lattice-Klon-Toanzzz??? Can I put my Practice Amp in it and sound like I'm at a Club and they are Miking my shit??? What Does It Do???
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:59 pm
by dubkitty
keeps Faraday in a cage.
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:07 pm
by DarkAxel
thanks, guys!
i'm a layman, so everything is helpful... thanks for the patience

Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:27 pm
by Wes Mantooth
ISP Decimator is, in my opinion, the best noise gate out there. Don't really use mine much though considering I have humbuckers and love all the noise my stacked pedals make.
Re: less get real - need Jazzmaster people
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:42 pm
by Achtane
sonidero wrote:Achtane wrote:Yeah, the idea is to enclose the circuitry in a magical shielding box.
Ooohhh tell me moar about this Box of yours Achtane... Will it help contain my Dumble-Lattice-Klon-Toanzzz??? Can I put my Practice Amp in it and sound like I'm at a Club and they are Miking my shit??? What Does It Do???
Well, with enough aluminum tape your guitar will literally sustain forever due to the increased mass and metal-wood osmosis effect. I find that copper tape yields too many zingy overtones for my own taste, but aluminum really adds some nice bite in the 1KHz range.
The magic box simply aids in conductivity, meaning it imparts a speedy quality to your tone. You'll find that your blues licks are much faster after this mod.