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skullservant wrote:I brough earplugs to the Sunn show when I saw them a few months back. Took them out 3 minutes in. It wasn't about how LOUD it was, I've heard much louder. It was about FEELING it, and I felt like shit the entire time and couldn't breathe because of the force of the sound

yeah, it was a physical presence in the room. i felt transcendent and in an altered state of mind as a result, it was amazing.

i'm learning slowly that i like my clean bass tone bright and smooth, with the bass dialed in at noon. i set my dirt pedals to earthquake mode for a dramatic frequency shift/door kick to the chest.

I like the bass frequencies to be loud but not necessarily the bass guitar to be loud.
Does this make sense?

Adding more bass frequencies but not more volume, I think that's more what the OP was talking about.

That does make sense. The bass should shine in the bass range of the spectrum (along with the bass drum) but not so loud that it overpowers the other elements of the sonic spectrum.

turning up the sub!

I love to turn down the mids a bit on the rusty box, get a bit of gain, treble and a touch of bass, and solo my Warwick Streamer's P pickup. Crunchy huge driving bass but still with a lot of mids cuz it's a P, but exactly sitting inside the mix where it should. no tweeter for me. I just need a rat! one modded to old specs.

bigchiefbc wrote:

oinkbanana wrote:I love it when the bass is cranked

I wish more bandmates, soundmen and bar owners felt this way.

An abhorrent lack of bass in this world. Also, apparently bass hurts my wife's ears?!?!? Never EVER EVER have I had any kind of pain or fatigue from any level of bass. Treble, now that'll fuck my shit UP. In fact when I was younger I would always turn the treble on my guitar amp all the way down. I really only started using the treble dial when I started recording. And now I use treble because I hate people and I want to hurt them.

But more important to have massive chest massaging/ass flapping low end.

*edit*
just remembered how sad I get when I click "another octave down" on a synth and it goes "blup blup blup blup."

Unfortunately, every guitarist I've ever played with has wayyyyyy to much lows in their signal, I guess because they have their shit eq'd to sound good on their own, so they scoop and blast me out of the bass range. I've taken to going for a really mid-heavy to e on my bass just to be heard. It's the only part of the spectrum I can cut through.

bigchiefbc wrote:Unfortunately, every guitarist I've ever played with has wayyyyyy to much lows in their signal ...

They need to take The Minutemen division of labor approach ...

bass takes the low frequencies ...

guitar takes the highs.

bigchiefbc wrote:Unfortunately, every guitarist I've ever played with has wayyyyyy to much lows in their signal, I guess because they have their shit eq'd to sound good on their own, so they scoop and blast me out of the bass range. I've taken to going for a really mid-heavy to e on my bass just to be heard. It's the only part of the spectrum I can cut through.

That sounds like a selfish guitarist who is hogging up yer frequencies and is sacrificing the sound of the band as a whole. It is important to know your role in the overall sonic spectrum of the band. Sorry your earth shattering crushing lows are being swallowed by the guitarist. You should talk to that dude.

When playing guitars ill back off on the bass to allow my bass players frequencies hit where it needs to hit. And I'll cut through where I need to in the 250ish hz range!

fungalattack wrote:

bigchiefbc wrote:Unfortunately, every guitarist I've ever played with has wayyyyyy to much lows in their signal, I guess because they have their shit eq'd to sound good on their own, so they scoop and blast me out of the bass range. I've taken to going for a really mid-heavy to e on my bass just to be heard. It's the only part of the spectrum I can cut through.

That sounds like a selfish guitarist who is hogging up yer frequencies and is sacrificing the sound of the band as a whole. It is important to know your role in the overall sonic spectrum of the band. Sorry your earth shattering crushing lows are being swallowed by the guitarist. You should talk to that dude.

When playing guitars ill back off on the bass to allow my bass players frequencies hit where it needs to hit. And I'll cut through where I need to in the 250ish hz range!

Funny thing is that it's not just one guitarist. We've had three guitarists over the years that all did the same thing. Meh, I'm sick of arguing. That's why I've basically modeled my rig on Lemmy's, cause he does the same thing, he's all mids. He actually turns his lows down a lot

Sometimes I turn the bass up on my amp and english muff'n and turn the other EQ knobs down. Then I turn on my Ibanez PM-7 to saw tooth mode to make some mad low ominous drones then go into a boost/fuzz into delay and reverb. Tweak the speed knob on the PM-7 to change pitch... and just you know... drone dat low end.

fungalattack wrote:

bigchiefbc wrote:Unfortunately, every guitarist I've ever played with has wayyyyyy to much lows in their signal, I guess because they have their shit eq'd to sound good on their own, so they scoop and blast me out of the bass range. I've taken to going for a really mid-heavy to e on my bass just to be heard. It's the only part of the spectrum I can cut through.

That sounds like a selfish guitarist who is hogging up yer frequencies and is sacrificing the sound of the band as a whole. It is important to know your role in the overall sonic spectrum of the band. Sorry your earth shattering crushing lows are being swallowed by the guitarist. You should talk to that dude.

When playing guitars ill back off on the bass to allow my bass players frequencies hit where it needs to hit. And I'll cut through where I need to in the 250ish hz range!

I'd admit, I love playing my guitar at home set like that. It sounds the best in that situation and having honky and ear piercing treble and mids while playing by your self just sounds horrible. Yeah, in band situations it's what you need but guitarists forget that they can actually EQ in more than one situation.

Anyway, buying a Bass has probably been the best descision I made in the past year.

Yeah I prefer the mid scoop when rocking out by myself but in a live situation it is pretty much opposite.

fungalattack wrote:

bigchiefbc wrote:Unfortunately, every guitarist I've ever played with has wayyyyyy to much lows in their signal, I guess because they have their shit eq'd to sound good on their own, so they scoop and blast me out of the bass range. I've taken to going for a really mid-heavy to e on my bass just to be heard. It's the only part of the spectrum I can cut through.

That sounds like a selfish guitarist who is hogging up yer frequencies and is sacrificing the sound of the band as a whole. It is important to know your role in the overall sonic spectrum of the band. Sorry your earth shattering crushing lows are being swallowed by the guitarist. You should talk to that dude.

When playing guitars ill back off on the bass to allow my bass players frequencies hit where it needs to hit. And I'll cut through where I need to in the 250ish hz range!

don't be a wuss
I play a baritone into an orange stack and into an SVT stack. (recently switched the 810 for a berg NV412, but my presence in the lowss has only increased.)
fight fire with fire!
just get a pair of 18", or two 810's.
this thread is an appreciation for low frequencies. lets not fuss over who's giving it!

It's all about receiving.