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Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:38 pm
by Mudfuzz
Moog 104m, Roland Re-201, Maxon AD900.
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:08 pm
by space6oy
much as i worship my oldies there are modern delays i love too. deluxe memory boy, supa puss, timeline & ghost disaster are all fighting in my rig. cave dweller coming soon...

Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:15 pm
by synthezatory
I found it's hard for ppl to be objective in delay or any pedals. Most of them prolly answered dmm, space echo, dm-2, ad999, or other good old ones. Big pull mostly is about the MOJO + the sound quality + PRIDE factor. I guess that's lacking with pedals these days, the combination of both aesthetic (it's important for me, I just can't stand ugly pedals, you can go to the river and drown if you don't agree with me on this one i don't care

) and the sound quality itself. But yeah, it is what it is man.. all comes back to ears..
Just another of my lame opinion.
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:17 pm
by 01010111
skullservant wrote:monkeydancer wrote:skullservant wrote:monkeydancer wrote:Deluxe Memory Man
Big Box version!
Hell yes. Never tried one of the newer ones though, maybe they're just as good?
I dunno dude. I know that PumpkinPieces had a big box one, then one of the xo's, and then he got rid of it for another big box. Unless it's the newest DMMTT which might sound just as good. But I'd heard some TGP babies whining about how the DMMTT didn't have the background noise/hiss and they actually kind of missed it haha
I've got the DMMTT and it's pretty awesome. I can't help comparing it with the DMB, though. I wish they would've had an lfo-type/depth knob on the DMMTT like the one on the DMB. The delays on it are much more musical and bouncy to me, and every time I play with it I get that warm feeling like after eating really rich chocolate.
If I had the money I'd get that Moog 104m though.
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:19 pm
by space6oy
i don't mind also throwing that i've had a 104m and have never missed it. still have five other 'foogers too. to each their own & all that.

Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:23 pm
by Ghost Hip
bigchiefbc wrote:I've played a few old school delays (old DMM, Boss DM-2) and honestly, I like the Deluxe Memory Boy more. I guess I'm the weirdo, but I really don't get why the old ones are considered to be so much better. The new ones have so much more versatility and options, and I don't there's much difference in sound, except that the new ones are less noisy. I guess the DMB is a tiny smidge cleaner in the repeats, but definitely not digital clean.

DMB cleaner? That's funny, I found them to be way dirty and dark. Not in a bad way, although I could never find the right mix between clean and repeats... anywho.
I'm not sure how delays can be fat... I guess it's not the word I'd use to describe it. Anywho... about this...
skullservant wrote:monkeydancer wrote:skullservant wrote:monkeydancer wrote:Deluxe Memory Man
Big Box version!
Hell yes. Never tried one of the newer ones though, maybe they're just as good?
I dunno dude. I know that PumpkinPieces had a big box one, then one of the xo's, and then he got rid of it for another big box. Unless it's the newest DMMTT which might sound just as good. But I'd heard some TGP babies whining about how the DMMTT didn't have the background noise/hiss and they actually kind of missed it haha
The XO was pretty good, had all the good things about the big box... I honestly just like the way the big box looks, not to mention it's a lot easier to tweak the big spread out knobs rather than the small squeezed together ones.
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:58 pm
by space6oy
going to get so confused w/ DMB meaning deluxe memory boy & DMB lunar.

Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:03 am
by Haki
sylnau wrote:Moog MF-104M
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:50 am
by ryan summit
i just saw a dmm
on cl for $400
is that for real?
i need delay cause i suck so bad
and droppin 2 bills on delaylab
was a leap for me at the time
ive gotten used to $200 peds
and appreciate why it would have to be
but $400
i know its good
some say the best
but $400 can buy some nice shit
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:58 am
by DarkAxel
EQD Disaster Transport
not analog in its essence, but analog sounding
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:09 am
by skullservant
synthezatory wrote:I found it's hard for ppl to be objective in delay or any pedals. Most of them prolly answered dmm, space echo, dm-2, ad999, or other good old ones. Big pull mostly is about the MOJO + the sound quality + PRIDE factor. I guess that's lacking with pedals these days, the combination of both aesthetic (it's important for me, I just can't stand ugly pedals, you can go to the river and drown if you don't agree with me on this one i don't care

) and the sound quality itself. But yeah, it is what it is man.. all comes back to ears..
Just another of my lame opinion.
As a delay freak, I go both ways on this. I've always got a long honeymoon period with most delays that I aquire, and test them extensively to see how well they fit into my sound. After trying so many of them, you figure out what works and what doesn't work, as with all pedals- it's taken me over 30 delays to figure out which I needed to keep or reaquire because there was something about them that I needed for my sound.
I must admit I felt like a badass and had some 'pride' when I had the big box DMM, but I found that the AD9 could do the DELAY of the DMM without the modulation that I used only slightly.
To be honest with you the best delay that I've personally used for my rig is the Madbean CaveDweller. It's digital, but oscillates and is dark like an analog. But for ANALOG delay, yeah, DMM big box. It definitely had some quarks that needed to be worked around like the shitty bypass and lots of noise, but it sounded great and sat really well. I've tried SO many delays, been critical of every single one of them, and come back to just 3: Vintage DMM for analog stuff, DD7 for digital stuff, and Cave Dweller Delay for ambient stuff.
I had some more recent analog delays, the Malekko 616 for a while that had a horrible clicking to it, although the delay itself was pretty okay. I also had one of the newer DOD Analog Delays and it just didn't sound well at all like the vintage FX90. I'd like to try one of the Malekko 300's and 600's, but even those modern analog delays are based off of old circuits. I must admit that I do love the aesthetic of the 616 Lofi though, as opposed to the Strymon stuff. I like when people actually take time to design their pedals through and through. Yeah, the Strymon stuff sounds awesome (for the most part) and is extremely user friendly, but the aesthetics are just so lifeless. Not even in an utilitarian, tool like aesthetic.
If it was what was 'the fatest delay in general' I bet you would probably see a few more varied and not so typical answers.
Wasn't trying to rant here although it looks like it haha

Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:48 am
by jrmy
skullservant wrote:... Madbean CaveDweller...
I was going to say, I've got a Skullservant-built CaveDweller, and it is GORGEOUS! Super dark, super lush, and it's got the best smooth warp/wiggle/slide from messing with the delay time knob of any delay I've played, analog or digital. Seriously, I just wanna rehouse it in a wah enclosure so I can just ride the shifting delay slides...
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:04 pm
by skullservant
Madbean really outdid himself with the design of it. I am pretty enamored myself with the beast. It's just SO good. and like Jrmy said, unlike most delays that kind of just 'jump' when you move the dial, this softly glides in the most musical way.
Jrmy, I might just have to make one in a wah shell

Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:05 pm
by bigchiefbc
PumpkinPieces wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:I've played a few old school delays (old DMM, Boss DM-2) and honestly, I like the Deluxe Memory Boy more. I guess I'm the weirdo, but I really don't get why the old ones are considered to be so much better. The new ones have so much more versatility and options, and I don't there's much difference in sound, except that the new ones are less noisy. I guess the DMB is a tiny smidge cleaner in the repeats, but definitely not digital clean.

DMB cleaner? That's funny, I found them to be way dirty and dark. Not in a bad way, although I could never find the right mix between clean and repeats... anywho.
Well, I could be totally wrong, I didn't A/B them. I played the old big box DMM years ago, so I'm comparing the DMB to my memory of the DMM. But I remember the DMM being really dirty and smeared, and the DMB is a little crisper to my ears than what I remember the DMM sounding like.
Regardless, either way, I just love some of the crazy options on the DMB. From now on, I'll never be able to be happy with a delay that doesn't have expression control of feedback.
Re: Fattest analog delay you've ever encounter
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:46 pm
by nieh
I like my Malekko Ekko a lot.