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Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:39 pm
by MEC
Casavettes wrote:ok what did ya steal? are the cops after you?
The reason I posed the question is that on Friday, I used $296 of a $300 MF gift card to buy a guitar.
This morning I decided to get a case for it and when I typed in the the gift card # to use the remaining $4
it put my whole $80 total on the gift card and said that I still had $220 remaining.
I was tempted to place the order and see what would happen.
I ended up paying for the whole order through Paypal and calling MF to see what was up.
If I go to use the remaining $4 a couple of weeks from now and they say the card still has $300
on it, I might feel more justified in using it since I already informed them of the problem.
Related story:
A couple of years ago my street address was 2809 but Cumcast had it as 2890 (which didn't exist) for some reason.
When I canceled my cable service they never actually shut it off.
I called 4 times to tell them they needed to come shut it off and every time they informed me
that they didn't have a 2809 that was receiving service.
On the 4th call I just put the phone up to the TV during "Pardon the Interruption" and said
"Do you hear that? That's Mike Wilbon. That's fucking cable TV." and hung up.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:59 pm
by Jeff-7
I'll admit when I was a teenager I used to download pirated music and I still feel pretty shitty about doing it. With YouTube and Spotify you don't even really need to do it anymore, and I try to support bands I like by purchasing their music/merch.
I don't think stealing is acceptable but I've never been in a desperate situation where it was steal or starve. I donate a lot of food to the local shelters so I really hope no one should have the need to steal in order to survive. I was tempted last christmas after the bank mistakenly put 5 grand in my account. It would have been extremely useful since student loans are killing me but I would have felt rotten about it, so I called and told them of their error.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:04 pm
by Chankgeez
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrwjiO1MCVs[/youtube]
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:11 pm
by Casavettes
McSpunckle wrote:I think just taking people's stuff is always wrong.
If a big box store gives me back too much change, I'll keep it. If it's a small place, I won't. The chances of me noticing are pretty slim either way, though.
One time, I canceled an order at Smallbear and they sent me the order anyways, and I told them about it so I could send their stuff back. But, when I sent a camera in to get it fixed, they shipped it back with a new battery and I didn't bother with anything past "w00t! free battery!" I also kinda just dropped the camera, and sent it in just saying it was broken without any more details. Dunno if they would have fixed it under warranty otherwise. I don't necessarily think that's "right", but I'd be lying if I said I felt any kind of guilt.
I do download music sometimes, or just get it on Youtube or something. Which I also don't think is right, but I couldn't afford much of it anyhow. I do try and go to concerts and buy merch to make up for it, which is really just paying for one thing instead of another...
So, yeah. I dunno. There's obviously different levels, but I never really think it's "right." It's just not enough to break my guilt threshold.
exactly how i feel
Chankgeez wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrwjiO1MCVs[/youtube]
it had to be done.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:23 pm
by 01010111
McSpunckle wrote:I think just taking people's stuff is always wrong.
If a big box store gives me back too much change, I'll keep it. If it's a small place, I won't. The chances of me noticing are pretty slim either way, though.
One time, I canceled an order at Smallbear and they sent me the order anyways, and I told them about it so I could send their stuff back. But, when I sent a camera in to get it fixed, they shipped it back with a new battery and I didn't bother with anything past "w00t! free battery!" I also kinda just dropped the camera, and sent it in just saying it was broken without any more details. Dunno if they would have fixed it under warranty otherwise. I don't necessarily think that's "right", but I'd be lying if I said I felt any kind of guilt.
I do download music sometimes, or just get it on Youtube or something. Which I also don't think is right, but I couldn't afford much of it anyhow. I do try and go to concerts and buy merch to make up for it, which is really just paying for one thing instead of another...
So, yeah. I dunno. There's obviously different levels, but I never really think it's "right." It's just not enough to break my guilt threshold.
Eggxactly
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:40 pm
by MaxMaps
GIMMY DAT LOOT
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:29 pm
by delaydecay
the only thing i steal is kisses.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:55 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
dubkitty wrote:not taking other people's stuff is one of the basic agreements necessary for humans to live together.
Yup, I'm not in favour of stealing. When I was quite a bit younger I did some very minor shoplifting, like I'd buy two things and put a chocolate bar in my pocket or something, because my friends were doing it and "it was ok because it was only ever from big company-owned shops", but I quickly grew out of that and stopped stealing is wrong, yo. I also downloaded a whole bunch of music illegally, but I got rid of loads of that (admittedly it helped that my tastes have changed a fair bit) and bought a bunch of stuff that I'd previously downloaded.
I still do download some music, but now very rarely and mostly when I can't find a place to buy it new (I figure since buying used cds doesn't benefit the band anyway you may as well download it
), because supporting artists that I like makes me feel good and helps them to keep making music I want to hear. And eat and stuff.
Do still have pirated software... Not games, but stuff I use for uni which is kinda expensive/technically not available for purchase by individuals afaik but me having a copy is definitely not covered under the uni license.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:35 pm
by Dark Barn
Marquis de Sade wrote:Tracing the right of property back to its source, one infallibly arrives at usurpation. However, theft is only punished because it violates the right of property; but this right is itself nothing in origin but theft.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:02 am
by MEC
I always thought "Marquis de Sod" would be a great name for a landscape company.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:04 am
by The4455
Stealing is wrong, but I can justify doing it. I still know what I'm doing is wrong and feel "bad" for it. Same with smoking pot, it's against the law, although I enjoy it, but I still know what I'm doing is wrong. I just don't care to a certain extent.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:27 am
by dubkitty
it's easier for me to get past the moral thing with drugs because hey, i LIKE drugs. and there's the "victimless crime" thing too. but the knowing-its-wrong thing is there for me even after 40 years. this, i suppose, is one of the reasons i'm not Lemmy.
not that i don't like things that i could steal, but i won't. i don't download music other than live concerts/outtakes/archival stuff which are available legally from the various DL sites like archive.org, DimeADozen, etc.; as someone who'd ideally like to get paid for my own shit someday, it'd be hypocritical to steal other peoples' work. if i want to sample music, i look for it on YouTube. i just feel better that way.
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:12 am
by DarkAxel
there is stuff i'd rather not talk about that i'm not proud of
nothing grave
just shitty
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:12 am
by tuffteef
i steal sips of drinks and bites of hamburgers all time
but in saying that if you took a bite of my samich i wouldnt care unless you had herpes or fucked up mouth game
Re: How Do You Feel About Stealing?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:16 am
by excane
Chankgeez wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrwjiO1MCVs[/youtube]
D.o.S. wrote:I enjoy stealing, man. It's just as simple as that.
I was waiting for the response to D.o.S.