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Re: Prog?

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:20 pm
by snipelfritz
Classics:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQsZOQqO6I[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKftiJS30Cs[/youtube]

And of course In the Court of the Crimson King is always a great starting point.

Then Rush killed it.

Although I do like The Mars Volta and most of Omar's solo stuff.

But progressive rock is totally an album-centered style of music. If you want some great deep cuts, pick up Tarkus by ELP and Tales From Topographic Oceans by Yes.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:45 pm
by D.o.S.
And a cape. Can't forget about the cape.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:33 am
by retinal orbita
madmax1012 wrote:Opeth's Damnation


God, this record is the fucking worst. Do yourself a favour and avoid. Deliverance is fucking great. Most of Opeths output is pretty awesome but this is as bad as Heritage. Buy yourself Watershed instead.

So much great progressive rock out there - newer stuff you should look into Black Bonzo from Sweden, all three of their records are killer. Orne from Finland, etc. But alsointeresting stuff is being done in "prgressive death metal" like Obscura for example, Stargazer.... maybe Gorguts will release a new album? Get real.....

Old stuff, the classics are classics for a reason. ELP up to Works Vol. 1 (particularly Tarkus, S/T, Trilogy, Pictures, BSS, Fanfare For The Common Man), Yes up to Going For The One, Rush (Hemispheres and Farewell To Kings are the best records EVER), Van Der Graaf Generator, the Italian scene, Zeuhl, the Swedish scene, Finnish stuff like Wigwam..... Spring had a great S/T album that's a little on the softer side.....

Personally I've never been as crazy about the Canterbury scene, Camel and Caravan were some pussy assed jams... but Egg and some of the Soft Machine albums are noteworthy.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:25 pm
by jfrey
Neither Damnation nor Heritage are bad albums.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:11 pm
by andtheLiquidmen
monkeydancer wrote:Yeah, I was more leaning towards modern heavier 'prog' stuff which I see more as just metal in weird time signatures (so, older prog with more distortion and screaming...) than actual progressive interesting music when I was criticising the genre name. It's kind of annoying that it's come to signify the wankery like you said when really a whole host of great artists could easily be called prog but aren't. Which sounds kind of the opposite of what I was saying earlier so I'm not sure where I'm going with this... :?:

Either way King Crimson are rad.


Didn't mean to sound like I was arguing- I only meant to support your point :lol:

retinal orbita wrote:
madmax1012 wrote:Opeth's Damnation


God, this record is the fucking worst. Do yourself a favour and avoid. Deliverance is fucking great. Most of Opeths output is pretty awesome but this is as bad as Heritage. Buy yourself Watershed instead.

So much great progressive rock out there - newer stuff you should look into Black Bonzo from Sweden, all three of their records are killer. Orne from Finland, etc. But alsointeresting stuff is being done in "prgressive death metal" like Obscura for example, Stargazer.... maybe Gorguts will release a new album? Get real.....

Old stuff, the classics are classics for a reason. ELP up to Works Vol. 1 (particularly Tarkus, S/T, Trilogy, Pictures, BSS, Fanfare For The Common Man), Yes up to Going For The One, Rush (Hemispheres and Farewell To Kings are the best records EVER), Van Der Graaf Generator, the Italian scene, Zeuhl, the Swedish scene, Finnish stuff like Wigwam..... Spring had a great S/T album that's a little on the softer side.....

Personally I've never been as crazy about the Canterbury scene, Camel and Caravan were some pussy assed jams... but Egg and some of the Soft Machine albums are noteworthy.


I thought Damnation was great and Deliverance was boring other than one or two tracks...and Watershed was their worst album by a long shot :idk: I haven't heard Heritage yet though, so I can't say either way on that one. Totally with you on Gorguts though :thumb:

madmax1012 wrote:Mainly much newer stuff. Lots of Porcupine Tree kinda started this. Opeth's Damnation, BTBAM, bands like Scale the summit, all kinda contributed too. I've never really listened to bands like Rush to be honest.


The Mars Volta are really great modern prog. Most people tend to prefer their older stuff, but Amputechture and The Bedlam in Goliath are the standouts for me.

As for modern prog/prog metal, I don't really consider BTBAM or Scale the Summit particularly progressive, but I 'spose some people do because of the whole odd time signature thing :idk: But, if you dig BTBAM, you might like one of the bands that they rip off a lot, Arcturus. The vocals are really theatrical and can be tough to get used to, but La Masquerade Infernal and The Sham Mirrors are fantastic IMO.

You might even dig a band that I was in called The Ciem Show if you want newer/heavier, but want singing and texture over minimal djenty stuff: http://theciemshow.bandcamp.com/album/lifelike-scenes

Re: Prog?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:19 pm
by snipelfritz
andtheLiquidmen wrote:The Mars Volta are really great modern prog. Most people tend to prefer their older stuff, but Amputechture and The Bedlam in Goliath are the standouts for me.

This for sure, I also like Francis the Mute quite a bit.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:49 pm
by WeHuntKings
OPETH. Especially the early stuff. Morningrise is becoming a huge favorite if mine by them, the acoustic bits are so folky and beautiful sounding, and the guitars sound so much rawer and aggressive than the later stuff. Same with the album Orchid.

Personally, I love Damnation, it has this beautiful melancholic feel to it that their other material doesn't have. Heritage kinda turns me off, however.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:35 pm
by D.o.S.
Opeth blows.

Acid Mothers Temple is where its at.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:47 pm
by Chankgeez
D.o.S. wrote:
Acid Mothers Temple is where its at.


They're amazing, but I think of 'em more as psych.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:13 am
by DarkAxel
Oceansize

one of my favourite bands of all the time

Re: Prog?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:44 am
by myrrh
99,9 % of all new prog sucks ass, but the golden age was full of good stuff.
This masterpiece:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvhtpfPvYas[/youtube]
Italian synth based stuff :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfjOaduCFC8[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPRlXwR9zo[/youtube]

belgian horror prog :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHc_fTlpl0M[/youtube]
and of course :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9A-gPOq1OQ[/youtube]

Re: Prog?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:50 am
by myrrh
This band is mindblowing :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGfDwbfEeEU[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wjV7QBu3XU[/youtube]

Re: Prog?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:52 am
by myrrh
Classic italian album
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqZZwrc-BNM&[/youtube]
Edit I cant get this video to work for some reason its Museo Rosenbach -Zarathustra
You should never have started this thread Im such a nerd..

Re: Prog?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:11 am
by snipelfritz
myrrh wrote:Classic italian album
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqZZwrc-BNM[/youtube]
Edit I cant get this video to work for some reason its Museo Rosenbach -Zarathustra
You should never have started this thread Im such a nerd..

lol I think there's a couple of us who feel the same way on that nerd comment. Any time I hear "prog" I think "Oh no, time to put on my pretentious smarty boy pants.

And you just needed to remove the "&" from the youtube link.

Re: Prog?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:13 am
by myrrh
Thanks!