Behringer Vintage Time Machine

[mathias]

Are they really analog?

[01010111]

Supposedly they are. When I was thinking about getting my memory man I found this:
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2845363-Behringer-VM1-vs.-Deluxe-Memory-Man

If that's to be trusted it might explain how they're able to offer it so cheaply.

[hbombgraphics]

That's crazy. So they'll actually be making more profit with the Behringer even though it's about 20% of the price huh?

yep........... well provided they sent them over on a boat
even with air freight they probably still make a bigger profit

it's so bad that when someone needs 100 parts and the Minimum order in China is 200 it is actually cheaper to buy them in China and throw the extra 100 away

and to mathias, per amazon it is legit analog

[Andrew]

okay, i'm buying it

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kpUgqmrugE[/youtube]

That... actually sounds better than my DMM. Mine has a slight volume dip and can get a little bit of clipping with the Blend higher but i'd take functionality anyday

[stripes]

The quality is very good and over the next few years will get much better, odds are the pricing will go up as well. More and more the Chinese marked is leaning towards 6 sigma manufacturing and I think the last target I had was one failure per million parts made, which is pretty insane.

As a means of comparison
the last working labor rate I had in the US was 2.00 a minute in China it was .04 a minute, to be fair the US had overhead loaded in differently but at minimum it is 1/50 as far as the costing.

I apologize for the nerdy answer

greatest knowledgeable answer i've seen on here yet. it's so crazy that when applied to effect pedals, it puts it strangely in perspective.


the biggest difference that i've heard people say is between the dmm and the vm-1 is that the vm-1 has a bit dirtier repeats... which is fine by me.

[Volume IV]

The quality is very good and over the next few years will get much better, odds are the pricing will go up as well. More and more the Chinese marked is leaning towards 6 sigma manufacturing and I think the last target I had was one failure per million parts made, which is pretty insane.

As a means of comparison
the last working labor rate I had in the US was 2.00 a minute in China it was .04 a minute, to be fair the US had overhead loaded in differently but at minimum it is 1/50 as far as the costing.

I apologize for the nerdy answer

greatest knowledgeable answer i've seen on here yet. it's so crazy that when applied to effect pedals, it puts it strangely in perspective.


the biggest difference that i've heard people say is between the dmm and the vm-1 is that the vm-1 has a bit dirtier repeats... which is fine by me.

Me too...especially because I will burry it in fuzz!

[mathias]

I pulled the trigger on one. Too cheap not to try!

[Volume IV]

I pulled the trigger on one. Too cheap not to try!

[hbombgraphics]

awesome!!!
So how much will these cost when you guys flip em?

[Scruffie]

Did you guys see what looks like a Small Stone clone on that Amazon page for $25?

You've gotta have some pretty brutal working conditions to crank that shit out for $25... Not gonna lie I want the delay and the pitch shifter

The small stone (sorry, vintage phaser) is great, got one my self, it is a clone of the small stone, few differences (uses a couple of different values, the OTAs have been replaced with available ones but perform the same job) but it's a damn good phaser, does suck tone a 'lil and has the volume drop but this can easily be sorted, I just true bypassed and added a booster on the output to mine. Good metal enclosure, standard 2.1mm DC jack, battery compartment, only cheap feeling part really is the knob.

The Vintage time machine is close enough to a DMM, different clock circutry, the signal path has been altered a bit and it uses the more available V3205 BBD chips instead of MN3005 (or BL3208 for the new Deluxe memory toy/boys) but i've been interested my self.

And yes, both are analog, a lot of the Behringer stuff is, only... well the digital stuff is digital.

Hear good things about there DM-2 clone too (with tweaking).

[hiorgos]

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[hbombgraphics]

Thanks Scruffie!! That technical breakdown is super helpful

I think I gotta grab the delay, I am such a delay junky

[madmax1012]

buy it and have DannDubblewe ENGRAVE THAT SHIT.

[Volume IV]

buy it and have DannDubblewe ENGRAVE THAT SHIT.

Look up a few posts!

Already pm'd!

[mathias]

awesome!!!
So how much will these cost when you guys flip em?

haha. free with purchase of nicer pedal that I'm trying to flip? We'll see whether it sticks on my board or not.