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Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:03 am
by sonidero
They used whatever shitty Japanese (shin-ei) SuperFuzz they could get with whatever Amp they had... One brother played and one brother turned knobs...
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:11 am
by rfurtkamp
If I want harsh and angry, I step on the footswitch to the fizzy, mean HM-2 on crack that is the Boss GL-100 rackmount, basically everything fun in 80s MIJ Boss stuff with parametric EQ and 2 channels.
It makes anything mean and spitty, then the Space Echo smooths it out.
A lot will depend on your amp and guitar of course is the thing. There won't be one white hot fits all pedal, or everyone would have three.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:22 pm
by WeHuntKings
Hm, I have fallen in and out of love with hm-2s, but I think I will check that out.
You're totally right though, I was just wondering what other peoples around here have used to great effect. The Wattson is starting to look super fucking sexy...But I wanna see if my Mega-Muff from Dirge Electronics satisfies the urge before I make any decisions.
For some reference points, I have been listening to lots of JAMC, the early Nortt demos, a good amount of MBV, early Bathory, Xasthur etc...It's inspired me to learn from a pro guitarist and hone my skillz for some mad tremolo picking.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:07 pm
by excane
Fuzz is not gonna cut it for what you want/described.
You need high gain distortion that won't turn to shit with chords.
My humble rec's:
Toneczar Openhaus (if you can find one)
Okko Dominator
Rivera Metal Shaman
Wampler TripleWreck
Weehbo Morbid Drive
Amptweaker Tightmetal
Greenhouse FX NoBrainer
PiggyFX Black Pig
Railhead FX TUA
I have demo's of all of them in my sig.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:13 pm
by WeHuntKings
Oof. Some expensive stuff you've listed there, but I may have to make it work to satisfy the crazy GAS that I'm having.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:42 pm
by excane
Those will definitely bring the BROOOTAL. I play it and live it.
Any one of those choices will be

Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:12 pm
by WeHuntKings
The death metal will always have a place in my heart I think. I don't think I'll know how to assess this situation properly until I can crank the new rig past 2...Damn apartments!
The Greenhouse FX thingie is SUPER cool sounding. I may have to look at that more closely. I tend to love distortions with three band eqs, though.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:40 pm
by chutneyfarmer
Just had a thought, for some cheap thrills you could get our very own Skullservant to build you a Gloom Drive modded for more treble.
Also some Devis like the Destructo Noctavia sound like they may do the job too.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:47 pm
by WeHuntKings
The Gloom Drive is flippin sweet, but it's a bit too squishy on the attack to be the answer. I might just get him to clone me a Shredmaster tweaked for more gain...That dude is pretty rad.
I do love me some devi, I wish I had kept that cray shoegazer I had a while back. The torn's peaker and VFM together was the shit, but I was against the idea of treble for whatever reason a few months ago.
I HAVE COME FULL CIRCLE.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:48 pm
by skullservant
I can do whatever meng!
@chutney- WeHuntKings had one of the first Gloomy big boxes, the sparkly black one with the super nice parts in it!!
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:52 pm
by fungalattack
WeHuntKings wrote:For some reference points, I have been listening to lots of JAMC, the early Nortt demos, a good amount of MBV, early Bathory, Xasthur etc...It's inspired me to learn from a pro guitarist and hone my skillz for some mad tremolo picking.
I love all those bands listed and have been listening to a lot of super fuzzy rock a la JAMC, the cramps, spacemen 3 but I was raised on black metal

. The super-fuzz is still my favorite fuzzy sound imaginable. It is just perfect for the music I want to create at the moment.
I got some really cool tones by placing a reverb in front of a fuzzy fuzz super-fuzzy typish fuzz pedal, very similar to the JAMC. but if you want cold black metal tremolo-ing, I gotta agree with mr. excane and say get a dedicated high gain distortion pedal.
I prefer the super-fuzz for chords that surround your body with a harsh wall of angry fuzz but not for tremolo picking because the notes get all blurred and too obscured. For that practicing your alternate picking and bring on the distortion! good luck sir

Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:54 pm
by fungalattack
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPRQG77YiA[/youtube]
all hail ze fuzz
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:56 pm
by skullservant
I've honestly been running reverb into ANY fuzz and get black metal toanz. Try it, WeHuntKings. It definitely gives that atmosphere and murk
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:59 pm
by WeHuntKings
fungalattack wrote:WeHuntKings wrote:For some reference points, I have been listening to lots of JAMC, the early Nortt demos, a good amount of MBV, early Bathory, Xasthur etc...It's inspired me to learn from a pro guitarist and hone my skillz for some mad tremolo picking.
I love all those bands listed and have been listening to a lot of super fuzzy rock a la JAMC, the cramps, spacemen 3 but I was raised on black metal

. The super-fuzz is still my favorite fuzzy sound imaginable. It is just perfect for the music I want to create at the moment.
I got some really cool tones by placing a reverb in front of a fuzzy fuzz super-fuzzy typish fuzz pedal, very similar to the JAMC. but if you want cold black metal tremolo-ing, I gotta agree with mr. excane and say get a dedicated high gain distortion pedal.
I prefer the super-fuzz for chords that surround your body with a harsh wall of angry fuzz but not for tremolo picking because the notes get all blurred and too obscured. For that practicing your alternate picking and bring on the distortion! good luck sir

See, obscurity isn't TOO bad when I'm tremolo picking, it's the slow arpeggios I want to ring out and sound super caustic and acidic/frostbitten/blindingly hot/other ghey descriptions.
skullservant wrote:I've honestly been running reverb into ANY fuzz and get black metal toanz. Try it, WeHuntKings. It definitely gives that atmosphere and murk
Well, I just bought an RRR, so I'll be sure to try that! Will probably end up putting either the muff or the death metal after it.
Re: Harsh, Angry, White-hot Distortion/Fuzzes
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:01 pm
by skullservant
WeHuntKings wrote:See, obscurity isn't TOO bad when I'm tremolo picking, it's the slow arpeggios I want to ring out and sound super caustic and acidic/frostbitten/blindingly hot/other ghey descriptions.
Reverb before fuzz will do THIS. I use it EXCLUSIVELY for black metal toanz

You wont be disappointed