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I might try: Supafuzz > Silver Rose > Box of War > Rat

I like overdrives/boosts at both the beginning and end of my chain. So, I'd try the Mellowtone in both spots.

The Hot Tubes I'd move around to see where it sounds best.

That's really what I'd do with all the pedals. Just keep switching them around until you find the combination that works best for you.

This solution might sound weird, but what you should do is place the pedals on the board where they feel intuitively good next to each other and wire all of them into a homemade patchbay. Then if you don't like the order you can just reroute the order via the patchbay.

Also, I know I whore myself out over this pedal quite a bit. But, the Muza fd900 is an amazing, low-cost, reverb and delay unit. There are some quality control issues, mainly background noise, but for the price it's worth the risk. I've had mine on my board since August and have not felt the need to change it out because I didn't like everything about it, because I love everything about it (I'm probably replacing it soon, though, because the fucked up delay sounds of the dba echo dream haunt me; that said, I'll never get rid of my Muza)

I haven't used all of those fuzzes but you should know how they behave with/without a buffer in front. For example with a Boss TU2 first in my chain, my Absynth as the next pedal didn't oscillate. I moved the tuner to after all my fuzzes and the Absynth worked at its best in front. But then my Phantom Octave didn't get full balls right after the ABsynth. So I switched them and put them both before my Algal Bloom which didn't seem compromised at all and stacked well behind the ABS.

Also, muting with the tuner after fuzz and before delay would let you indulge in huge noisy feedback glory then cut the fuzz while sounds trail off or loop. Yeah.

i tend to stack the distortion/fuzz in order of gain with the lowest gain first, because i've found that i get less noise when i run a lower-gain box into a higher-gain one rather than the other way 'round. and of course with that many dirtz you're going to run more than one at once, especially if you're going for the shoegaze thing. this can vary: e.g. i put the Algal Bloom after the Sound Shank because it's so clean-sounding even at aggressive gain levels.

I you want another input:
Boss TU-3 tuner
EHX Hot tubes (78 solid state)
Creepy Fingers Supafuzz Clone
Devi Silver Rose
LM 308 Turbo RAT
Mellowtone Singing Tree Lite
Wren & Cuff Box of War
Infanem Compact Faye Sing
TC Repeater Delay
(Reverb - i would get a EQD Ghost Echo - is the best addition to Amp Reverb imho)

btw, decent setup i would rock it.

as sometimes happens, i didn't see the second page until after i made my comment. Seedy makes some very good points...a buffered tuner can cause all kinds of fuck-uppery, especially with oscillating fuzz or boxes which need to see a certain impedance to operate properly like the Fuzzhugger Phantoms, which Tom recommends you run at the front of the chain. one thing i like about the PolyTune is that it apparently has no buffer, so i can run it at the front; i can cut off the crazy feedback by using my volume pedal, which i run after the octave divider->compressor->fuzz->envelope filter and before the chorus/flanger->delay->trem->reverb. i started using the volume pedal there because my 3-knob Great Wall makes weird noises when the input signal is attenuated from before the box while it's engaged and i really like doing swells with the volume pedal/knob.

wfs1234 wrote:This solution might sound weird, but what you should do is place the pedals on the board where they feel intuitively good next to each other and wire all of them into a homemade patchbay. Then if you don't like the order you can just reroute the order via the patchbay.

I like that idea of being able to reorder the pedals without moving it all around but my diy skills are pretty lame...

wfs1234 wrote:Also, I know I whore myself out over this pedal quite a bit. But, the Muza fd900 is an amazing, low-cost, reverb and delay unit. There are some quality control issues, mainly background noise, but for the price it's worth the risk. I've had mine on my board since August and have not felt the need to change it out because I didn't like everything about it, because I love everything about it (I'm probably replacing it soon, though, because the fucked up delay sounds of the dba echo dream haunt me; that said, I'll never get rid of my Muza)

I will have a look at that thanks!

Seedy wrote:I haven't used all of those fuzzes but you should know how they behave with/without a buffer in front. For example with a Boss TU2 first in my chain, my Absynth as the next pedal didn't oscillate. I moved the tuner to after all my fuzzes and the Absynth worked at its best in front. But then my Phantom Octave didn't get full balls right after the ABsynth. So I switched them and put them both before my Algal Bloom which didn't seem compromised at all and stacked well behind the ABS.

Also, muting with the tuner after fuzz and before delay would let you indulge in huge noisy feedback glory then cut the fuzz while sounds trail off or loop. Yeah.

I do find the Boss tuner takes the gloss off the pedals. I might look at flipping it as I find it a little slow. I was looking at that turbo tuner. I like to play a bit of sonic youth now and then and would love to be able to store a few of the tunings on the pedal.

univalve wrote:I you want another input:
Boss TU-3 tuner
EHX Hot tubes (78 solid state)
Creepy Fingers Supafuzz Clone
Devi Silver Rose
LM 308 Turbo RAT
Mellowtone Singing Tree Lite
Wren & Cuff Box of War
Infanem Compact Faye Sing
TC Repeater Delay
(Reverb - i would get a EQD Ghost Echo - is the best addition to Amp Reverb imho)

btw, decent setup i would rock it.

Thanks! I really like all these pedals. I might try some after the phaser (once it arrives) and see what happens. I might put the mellowtone after the tuner and the hottubes after the some of the fuzz also.
It is trial and error as said before. With all of these pedals connected at once do you loose any signal strength if you remove the boss tuner due to the amount of cable?

muttlegs wrote:I like that idea of being able to reorder the pedals without moving it all around but my diy skills are pretty lame...

if there's a decent used-gear store near you, you should be able to get a used rackmount patch bay for $25 or so. i've thought of getting one and rigging it to my board so i could move the order of stuff around when i do experimental/noise stuff, so i could e.g. feed the filter->flanger into the fuzz.

muttlegs wrote:With all of these pedals connected at once do you loose any signal strength if you remove the boss tuner due to the amount of cable?

you can always use a buffered pedal later in the chain, or a separate buffer like the little SolidGold FX unit i use at the output of my looper board. in fact, i'd think you'd want the buffer farther along, after some of the pedals.

dubkitty wrote:if there's a decent used-gear store near you, you should be able to get a used rackmount patch bay for $25 or so. i've thought of getting one and rigging it to my board so i could move the order of stuff around when i do experimental/noise stuff, so i could e.g. feed the filter->flanger into the fuzz.

I live in the UK and would not know where to begin but I can have a look around. I did see a Hosa 350 online. Is this the right kind of thing?
http://www.hollywooddj.com/hosamhb350.html

muttlegs wrote:With all of these pedals connected at once do you loose any signal strength if you remove the boss tuner due to the amount of cable?

you can always use a buffered pedal later in the chain, or a separate buffer like the little SolidGold FX unit i use at the output of my looper board. in fact, i'd think you'd want the buffer farther along, after some of the pedals.[/quote]

Are you talking about this buffer?
http://solidgoldfx.com/pedals.php?pedal=Buffer
I will have look. Thanks.